Long Holding Times for Delve NMs

[Economizer]

Either level COR or BRD or Support (WHM/SCH) or have fun not doing the event without RME or Delve equipment.

What's worse is that if you're a White Mage who actually plays the job more, nobody really looks at your gear or even what your Healing/Enhancing Magic are skilled at, so you get to compete with random people who powered leveled a White Mage and bought some cure potency gear and maybe (if the group is lucky) got their AF3+2 pants, and the friends of whomever is doing the shout. There is no regard to gear or skill when comparing White Mages, since gear is either crazy easy to get, doesn't make a big enough difference, or is Yagrush.

Compare this situation to a Bard or Corsair, you mention you have Relic/Empyrean Instrument or the Empyrean Gun and you basically get to boot anyone from the party who doesn't. As a White Mage? Nobody cares if you have your AF2+2 pants, or really even your AF3+2 pants, they just stick you in the party if you're lucky enough to see the shout before anyone else (assuming the shouter isn't giving preference to their friends for whatever reason).

Of course, this still doesn't change the situation we have with new players getting into the more elite content.

[Phafi]

How about an option to trade more than just the one shard to pop the NM to have the fracture version of the NM outside without it depopping and removing the monsters ability to drop anything as a method for the "new comers"

but this update seems stupid, there's never anyone around, 9/10 people are going to get the clear once and just farm inside the fracture for points to buy the items. only groups that are strong enough to go after the boss are going to repeat these NMs.

[Babekeke]

So glad I already have Daurdabla^^

[Unaisis]

Wow SE must have Really Screwed up when even the White Knights are upset about this Nerf.

[Fynlar]

We'd really be grateful if those of you who are experienced could invite these newcomers to take on this content when you have the ability to do so.

Hint: This won't happen, and it's even far less likely to happen now with a 20 minute time limit.

Well, it MIGHT happen, but only in the context of the elites charging newcomers millions of gil to leech the win.

[bigdave]

i think its total crap and i still need a t 4 and 5 win in ciezak now it wont happen with new rules thanks se for bending us over and shoving it up our buts again

[Camiie]

It still makes no sense that they are cockblocking Delve without opening up Skirmish and Naakuls, but not making sense seems to be what the devs do best lately.

[Calatilla]

And so we're back to zerging content and you people say SE don't intend for content to be zerg'd.

[Arkista]

About time they did this having to wait on another group to beat a nm sucks did Tax'et yesterday had to wait about 45mins on something that should have taken 15mins and then 30mins+ on Tutewehiwehi when the party had it at 58% when we got there. If you cant beat it within the time limit then your doing it wrong, Probably not doing BRD/COR rotations.

For Newcomers and people who think they cant get win..
People can always buy up wins. I see a lot of pick up groups and they get wins and some don't even have REMs seen a few DRKs with str GS and doing 3k+ reso but idk what the average is. If all else fells bust out WHM SCH or COR and I am sure you can get a spot.

Why not have more than 1 pop for each NM....
If they gave NMs more than one ??? then you would have 15 total ??? in a zone so then you would have to find which is for which NM, Do we have to do a Reive to get to it, Are there people already at this one, And which ??? has a better advantage over the others? Any mobs going to be around the pop site if no then everyone would want that one so people can AoE without the need of outside Aggro. Oh and if you need outside mobs for TP your doing it wrong.

[Iakothm]

I honestly cannot believe they put a freaking 20 minute timer on the event I honestly think this will just cause yet even more people to rage quit since there were tons of people who unlocked the ki for the weapons already thus giving those players a huge advantage over the other players.