Summoner in Colonization Reives = Broken

[Xerius]

From a SMN's perspective you're stealing all their Bayld with your Curaga's. Obviously, the more people you have the less Bayld everyone is going to get overall.

[Camiie]

As a SMN I appreciate that my BPs affect everyone. As a DD I appreciate the free buffs and cures. This is a boon to the vast majority of players doing Reives. Since the positive outweighs the negative, I see no reason for a nerf.

As far as SMN goes: it's squishy, a terrible melee, is almost entirely reliant on its pets which are also fairly squishy, and is hampered by a lengthy JA timer. If you want to remove the super-AOE ability from SMN then you put them in a far worse boat than your WHM or any other job. You have options at your disposal. SMN really doesn't.

[Caketime]

SMN has just as many options as WHM, get some DA pieces and wear a couple of accuracy rings, maybe chew on some sushi and beat roots while you spam buffs and cures. Stop acting like you have no options other than spamming Wards.

[Camiie]

SMN has just as many options as WHM, get some DA pieces and wear a couple of accuracy rings, maybe chew on some sushi and beat roots while you spam buffs and cures. Stop acting like you have no options other than spamming Wards.

A WHM is telling a SMN they have options? lawl that's rich. WHM has nearly all of Vana'diel on a silver platter, but SMN is the one with "options." You really think I don't melee and use everything I have at my disposal? Don't make stupid, baseless assumptions.

Even taking the rest of the game out of the equation WHM is superior to SMN as a melee, as a healer by a long shot, and is more durable yet somehow that's still not enough. Not only do you have to keep those advantages, you want to take SMN's away so that yours are even more advantageous. What a bunch of nonsense.

[Caketime]

Wait, when did I say I want to take away SMN's advantages? I don't support nerfing their AoE or anything, I was just suggesting a way to help improve what sounded to me like unsatisfactory results being reported by my fellow mage bros. There's no need to be so salty.

E: SMN has higher staff skill than WHM and has access to most of the same melee gear WHM does. Just saying.

[Lithera]

What about Blus or Bsts who solo rieves in your line of thought that would be giving them an unfair advantage over the other jobs. Wanted to do that layer rieve? Too bad that blu just soloed it... Get there faster next time.

[Ketaru]

Community effort? Hastes for everyone? Group cures?

Who needs that when you can just wipe because your Whm/Sch/Rdm's ect can't:

Target you fast enough through 50+ targets,
See your life bars 24/7,
Accidently try curing themselves, because you blinked your gear.

Clearly the answer is staring us straight in the face.

An even better solution would be for Curaga, Accession'd Cure, Healing Breeze, and that Waltz thingy DNC to also have the ability to target everyone. Not everything must be about nerfing.

[Caketime]

An even better solution would be for Curaga, Accession'd Cure, Healing Breeze, and that Waltz thingy DNC to also have the ability to target everyone. Not everything must be about nerfing.

I like this, so we can all share the responsibility of support, and also to help the SMN bro out when Ward is on cooldown.

[Kaeoni]

An even better solution would be for Curaga, Accession'd Cure, Healing Breeze, and that Waltz thingy DNC to also have the ability to target everyone. Not everything must be about nerfing.

Sounds good to me, I hate nerfs like you do man. It just discourages me when I see people complaining that "one job can't do one thing another job can and here is the reason it should get nerfed" because my job is better, for, sorry, what reasons?

This game is fairly unique in the fashion you can have multiple jobs leveled on the same character. It's pretty cool that we can so easily share a lot of our gear with similar jobs. I say similar loosely, keep some originality, I'm all for fair, but there needs to be some kind of line.

[mistmonster]

I'm mad.. I went to solo reive on SMN today and there were like 5 bst there spamming wild carrot... dey terk mah jerb!! nerf nerf!
(Just kidding, got 4k plus. melee were looking a little rough from all the rabbit aoe spam.. I think they were happy that the bsts and I was there)