Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

[bigdave]

you all know these drop off tier 1-5 nms as well and you should be happy about that quit complaining so much

[Foxx]

Can you make a way to cancel quest......I didn't know you could only do one relic at a time and without thinking handed in my dagger instead of my gun......

[Foxx]

Greetings, everyone.

Below is a follow-up comment from Producer Akihiko Matsui in regards to relic, mythic, and empyrean weapon upgrades.

I don't believe 300 is that much considering the items do drop from a lot of different content that people do regularly......better then collecting 1500 plates followed by 60 cinders/dross which people rarely do.

[Zumi]

They should randomly drop from mobs like geodes there problem solved.

[Byrth]

Yeah, or not. I have 19/300 and I'm essentially two nights of casual farming in. The 300 number is really a non-issue.

[Afania]

Massive cancellations for what? I usually agree with complains about SE but I really think they did a good fairly good job with this update. I'm confused. What exactly did we want?:

Well, we certainly were upset that RMEs were being left in the dust, being outclassed by gear that we have no "connection" with and by gear that is easily obtained (Oat) so I hear. So, SE said, "OK, it was a mistake to do that. We'll give you the option of upgrading RME." Good, problem solved. At this point we've figured out that the only way people are going to make new RME is if they're some of the strongest weapons in the game so we expected the update to be potent.

Free, automatic upgrades for life? So, we wanted to log in and be given the most powerful weapons in the game? And what then? AFK in Adoulin? Believe me, I know that it's a lot of work to get these. I spent literally months farming gil everyday to get the HMP and Riftcinders I got. Isn't that why we were upset in the first place? That all our work was being invalidated? Wanting free, automatic upgrades doesn't make much sense, does it? Wouldn't that be like SE releasing new content and then giving us the gear to be gained from that content when we log in? It doesn't make sense to me.

The issue I had initially with this part of the update was that the drops came from Delve because I don't like delve or most alliance content for that matter. So, when people were saying, "Delve drops? I don't want to do Delve." I said, "Yeah, that's really lame." but then I found out, as Byrth said, they drop from other things AND they're sellable. So, now they're pretty much like HMP and Riftcinders, which I'd remind you we complained about too (I did too) until people started completing the trials.
*Sidenote: It's also I huge economy boost to make these sellable which is another issue people where having.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not an SE apologist. I still think Stymie is silly and, frankly, the whole iLvl thing was/is a mistake (lateral, "sidegrade" gear would be better, if for no other reason for power creep's sake). I just think might be a little off base in what we wanted/expected. Because it seems like what we wanted was the best weapons without bothering to play the game.

I see population increased this weekend compare with 2~3 weeks ago. Personally I spent more time in FFXI than FFXIV this week too. That's enough really.

[Zumi]

Yeah, or not. I have 19/300 and I'm essentially two nights of casual farming in. The 300 number is really a non-issue.

Do you dual box? Because I know someone who dual box hardcore he has over 150 after 3 days of doing it, the other person who dual box more casually got about 80. What this game turned into is well do you dual box here you can do the content. Certain delve nms just lend themselves to dual boxing because they are that easy. Not many people left play this game and the when there is a huge grind like this you know nobody will want to team up to do it when it can be dual boxed.

Someone who doesn't have another character on a 2nd account the only option is to buy them but even that isn't good at the moment because several people are doing the same thing.

The only solo option is buy from bazzars and that is pretty bad at the moment. So yea they do need a solo option.

[Byrth]

I never bought my mule Adoulin because I disapproved of the direction of the expansion, so I don't dualbox. But yeah, there are people on BG that have already finished two trials just by farming Matamata.

[FaeQueenCory]

They should randomly drop from mobs like geodes there problem solved.

Better yet, have the relic rocks drop from Dynamis mobs/NMs, the mythic from ToAU NMs and stuff, and the empy drop from Abyssea NMs and/or VW NMs...
That way people can get the ones they actually need by doing content that is associated with the item in question.

You know... like how the magian trials for 75-99 work.
At least when they aren't "use the WS X times" or "kill X with the WS Y times"...
Relic trials involved Dynamis NMs.
Mythics involved NMs in ToAU area.
And Empys involved both Abyssea and VW NMs. (for the body parts and the HMPs respectively... I know Empys are a bit different because their "base" is technically an 80 and not a 75 weapon... but it's the same for them 80-99 as R&M is for 75-99)

It should have been like this from the beginning... channeling everything through Delve... just to get ppl to do it MORE...
Some people are tired of it.
Other people aren't having fun with it.
And other people just don't like it, and never have.
And forcing it on everyone just so they can keep competitive is not going to get these three types of people to change their mind about Delve.

EDIT: But don't make it dumb like how they might drop once in a blue moon like they do in WKRs.
The great thing about the REMs is that you used to be able to get "the best weapon" by only doing the content that you enjoyed doing.
Like Dynamis? make a Relic.
Like NM camping in and out of Abyssea? make an Empy.
Liked ToAU? Sell your soul to the Empress and make a Mythic.
Obviously there are some exceptions... "I want X, but I don't like Y content"... But that's a choice that the player makes. Is the specific weapon worth doing the content they don't like?
And if it's not... There are other options for them.

And to all the ppl saying "well the stuff is in the next login campaign"...
Not everyone has 20 mules to get enough points for everything.
Some of us are poor college students who can only afford 1 character.
It's just plain wrong to assume everyone has access to your resources.
To use the horse-paste saying: "check your privilege"

[Sapphires]

So whats the official word on being able to do this quest if you have a 2nd mythic in progress (on Duties, Tasks and Deeds stage?)
Is the upgrade quest supposed to function with people in this situation? Do we have to finish/cancel the 2nd one in progess or what?