Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

[Cybermario]

@Karbuncle indeed, our LS is pretty organized and we all are well geared, this issue dont affect me but im able to empathize with the people that isnt fortunate to have a good LS or a lowman group for NNI. Mainly commentng there's people thinking certain attitude will go away with an outdated weapon, will not.

[tarubigboss]

Crutan and RushLynx I <3 you. Will you be my bff? tarutaru /lick

[FrankReynolds]

These sorts of shouts weren't possible until RMEs were easy enough to obtain that like 30-40% of the player base had them and they continued to receive buffs. The fact of the matter is that RMEs should have stopped getting upgrades a long time ago when they became solo-able, and they should have been paralleled by things like pulse weapons. Continuing to upgrade them now will not fix this, it will only make it worse.

To that end had they not continued to upgrade RMEs maybe we wouldn't be in this awkward balance fiasco where new content seems impossible without them. People would accept that there's some other way to do the content that's not readily accessible, actually climb this gear ladder devs keep referring to, and stop trying to brute-force their way up the Delve tiers.

There is absolutely no reason why the RME weapons can't be upgraded to an equal or slightly stronger form than the delve weapons themselves via drops from delve thus facilitating the ability for RME owners to keep their weapons while helping out people who just want delve weapons...

Other than you just wanting to see RME owners suffer.

Ideally, both weapons could have strengths and weaknesses. That would add to the popularity of delve or whatever comes after it. Stop acting like people want to just have their damage bonus for free.

[AldielQuetz]

Rush... Were you just too lazy to dedicate 50 hours a week to this game, forgoing sleep, farming endless tree cuttings, growing endless tree cuttings and saplings, harvesting dark ores.... Oh wait you probably didn't even play back then. So how could you possibly know where this "balance fiasco" came from let alone have a weapon you prize more than the game itself. The balance concept came from SE and the REMs are not the cause but they are effected by balance. Balance is what SE says when they don't have any other explanation or when they just want you to take what they are selling and kindly take a cup of shush and go have a seat.

But more seriously, it first came about when talk of certain jobs being over powered arose, IN TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR, when they nerfed RNG into the Stone Age. At first, since there was no forum, no ~dev team coordinators~ we just heard about balance in the update notes and basically had to suck it. But now it's just way over used.

Now, to be realistic, lets just take the average jump in base DMG of any REM from level 95 to 99, a five level difference, it's between 4 and 11 damage depending on what weapon. Lets take a look at the jump we just made, of between 70 and 120 base DMG from a 99 weapon that was the best of the best at the end of march and a 99 weapon near or at the top at the BEGINNING OF MAY OF THE SAME YEAR. That's a rediculous jump. If anything should have made that jump, it is REM. the time to make them is disproportionate entirely to their standing and SE promised that those weapons would remain at the top of their respective classes. But it's obvious with the sudden influx of TH+ items for pets that we can't keep REMs on top... Oh yeah, SE has lied to us before so let's stop arguing and bitching and just present a mature united front with a great number of good suggestions and not accept anything but our due.

What is our due... Well we have been paying that same dollar amount for 10 years for a game that's graphics are so outdated it looks like a Nintendo 64 game.... If we pay for this crap, then we deserve to have that 3 man dev team fix our damn REMs and maybe have one less smoke break because as it has been pointed out, it would take maybe an hour to add 70 base DMG across the board to all REMs, or 70 to 1handers and 100 to 2handers, so add an extra 20 mins on there, and TADA everyone is happy.

Thanks

[Alpheus]

To be honest, I'm not really sure why I play anymore, I log in, I stand around trying to think of something to do, and I log having thought of nothing. When I think about it, I wasn't sure why I played before, but I had friends to do things with, and it was fun. I see the game changing around me and I don't like it. I'm gonna stick around awhile longer just to see what happens.
EDIT: I suppose one idea is to level WHM and use that to gear my other jobs... Maybe?

It's definitely the path I took when I started playing 3 years ago and with a bit of luck of running into people I got along with, I'd like to think being willing to do things like have WHM, SCH, COR prepped to fill in those roles; presented me with quite a few opportunities to get where I'm at today in game. Find a niche, see if filling it would in turn leave you fulfilled with some sense of enjoyment and try to thrive in that niche. That's the approach I've taken with the game. Granted it was tempered with cold hard facts such as not thinking I can out DD a main DD on RDM or WHM melee on anything worthwhile.

[Kojo]

It's definitely the path I took when I started playing 3 years ago and with a bit of luck of running into people I got along with, I'd like to think being willing to do things like have WHM, SCH, COR prepped to fill in those roles; presented me with quite a few opportunities to get where I'm at today in game. Find a niche, see if filling it would in turn leave you fulfilled with some sense of enjoyment and try to thrive in that niche. That's the approach I've taken with the game. Granted it was tempered with cold hard facts such as not thinking I can out DD a main DD on RDM or WHM melee on anything worthwhile.

I'll only use WHM as a utility job, also I want to hit things with a hammer when not doing something important.

[Smush]

You guys seem to forget that you needed help to upgrade those weapons to 99. Many people, such as myself, spent countless hours at LS events and what not helping people obtain their relics and empys, not getting a whole lot out of it ourselves, only to be ignored when we asked for help ourselves. So this idea that people like me sat on our asses is pure arrogance... not all of us think entirely of ourselves, some of us prefer to spend our time in game helping others instead of growing our e-peens... because we recognize that MMOs, FFXI especially, are all about team work and collective endurance, rather than all about you. If I wanted to think entirely of myself and no one else, I'd go play a single player game.

I didn't do my with any ls i did mine with RL friends i have and we all have them so thats not always true, also i am working on delve stuff its not gonna stop me from getting better but i think the R/M/E should be upgraded if its 99.

ppl like you don't really play for the reason i play you guys don't really work to be the best so why should they let you have the best weapons now so easy? gear also since you get it the same way

[AldielQuetz]

Also... Rush, you just either had the worst luck or something is just wrong on your server. I would take people without REMs to NNI, it was 50% luck anyway with the lamps. Half the time if you won you had like 8 minutes left over because of lucky jumps.

Anyway and about way back when.... Are you crazy dude? You getting 100k and getting AFs for participating in dynamis was a gift... I was in shells before I made my own with the help of Cyronea that made you PAY for your part of the glass lol.... So before you discount the endless days upon days that someone else spent to be 1 of 2 people on their server with an Excalibur.... Please have the courtesy to have actually done it yourself or at least take that into account.

Are relics too common: No. Should people be excluded for not having one: No. Is the game still on easy mode: Yes.

What has everyone been screaming for: strategy. It's what we used to have to use to beat gods, jailers and kings.

SE fix the REMs, bring back the golden era of FFXI

[Kennx]

FFXI RIP. goodbye

[Kennx]

fix it now... or say goodbye to your job.