Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

[Shirai]

You kinda left that detail out of your initial complaint, that said, taking that into the comparison I can't disagree that the Empyrians did indeed get an unfair boost.

[machini]

You kinda left that detail out of your initial complaint, that said, taking that into the comparison I can't disagree that the Empyrians did indeed get an unfair boost.

I apologize. I've been up for nearly thirty six hours at this point, I'm surprised I can still type, let alone type something intelligible.

[machini]

So, yeah, looking at some of these weapons, it seems Emypreans have gotten a roughly 39% damage increase, Relics a 36%, and Mythics, if you ignore Gastraphetes, got a 25% damage increase. I'm ignoring Gastraphetes because it somehow nearly doubled in DPS. That must be a mistake. If it's not a mistake, I am even further incapable of comprehending the wisdom of this decision. It's especially jarring, and sticks out like a gangrenous thumb, when you notice that at their original 119 verisons, many of these weapons were very close to each other in DPS, whereas with the current update, Relic and Empyrean pulled significantly ahead, while mythic remained close together (compare the daggers).

Combine the fact that Mythics got a comparatively smaller damage increase, no aftermath upgrade, no upgrade to their job-specific enhancements, and, from what I understand, no increase to their weapon skill damage, and compare that massive pile of nothing to the higher damage boost that Relics and Empyreans got, especially combined with the stats on Empyreans and their (again, assuming same proc rates) 50% better Aftermath, then yes, this update has been a huge insult to people who have mythics.

This needs to be fixed, and now.

[Ashel]

Anyone seen the stats on the upgraded Kenkonken?

[Kensagaku]

Anyone seen the stats on the upgraded Kenkonken?

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/February_...Update_Changes All the upgraded weapons are here, if that helps. :P

[Ashel]

Thanks appreciate it!

[Rydal]

So, yeah, looking at some of these weapons, it seems Emypreans have gotten a roughly 39% damage increase, Relics a 36%, and Mythics, if you ignore Gastraphetes, got a 25% damage increase. I'm ignoring Gastraphetes because it somehow nearly doubled in DPS. That must be a mistake. If it's not a mistake, I am even further incapable of comprehending the wisdom of this decision. It's especially jarring, and sticks out like a gangrenous thumb, when you notice that at their original 119 verisons, many of these weapons were very close to each other in DPS, whereas with the current update, Relic and Empyrean pulled significantly ahead, while mythic remained close together (compare the daggers).

This needs to be fixed, and now.

The weapon damage is almost double from the 119 version so it'd make sense that the DPS doubled.

I'm not sure but maybe they boosted them the way they did was because mythic have special job specific boosts that the Relic and Empyreans lack, making them more desirable than the other two, especially when pure DPS isn't even the importance in some cases (mostly for mages and pet jobs). Murgleis, for example, might be seen as one of the Mythics that were "saved" via this update, as opposed to say Nirvana, which doesn't get a major boon from the update.

Since Relics and Empyreans are more geared towards attacking outright than Mythics are (since again, many people might use mythics more for the job specific buffs), it makes sense that their DPS is higher since they lack many special buffs. Also, Mythic AM is potentially higher damage because of the double/triple proc.

[Karbuncle]

So, yeah, looking at some of these weapons, it seems Emypreans have gotten a roughly 39% damage increase, Relics a 36%, and Mythics, if you ignore Gastraphetes, got a 25% damage increase. I'm ignoring Gastraphetes because it somehow nearly doubled in DPS. That must be a mistake. If it's not a mistake, I am even further incapable of comprehending the wisdom of this decision. It's especially jarring, and sticks out like a gangrenous thumb, when you notice that at their original 119 verisons, many of these weapons were very close to each other in DPS, whereas with the current update, Relic and Empyrean pulled significantly ahead, while mythic remained close together (compare the daggers).

Combine the fact that Mythics got a comparatively smaller damage increase, no aftermath upgrade, no upgrade to their job-specific enhancements, and, from what I understand, no increase to their weapon skill damage, and compare that massive pile of nothing to the higher damage boost that Relics and Empyreans got, especially combined with the stats on Empyreans and their (again, assuming same proc rates) 50% better Aftermath, then yes, this update has been a huge insult to people who have mythics.

This needs to be fixed, and now.

I would believe it to be honest. Gastraphetes was without a doubt the most useless joke of a Mythic available. So if that got upgraded as much as it did its likely in an effort to make it suck considerably less.

[Ulth]

I would believe it to be honest. Gastraphetes was without a doubt the most useless joke of a Mythic available. So if that got upgraded as much as it did its likely in an effort to make it suck considerably less.

Pretty sure the joke Mythic is Nagi, at least Gastraphetes was good for trueflight. Ranged Mythics seem to be an exception to the Mythics getting the short end as both benefit most from their magical weaponskills and they got magic damage added to the weapon as well as special ammo with high magic attack bonus. At least Mythic cors won't have to worry about shooting their Animikii Bullet anymore.

[dasva]

Pretty sure the joke Mythic is Nagi, at least Gastraphetes was good for trueflight. Ranged Mythics seem to be an exception to the Mythics getting the short end as both benefit most from their magical weaponskills and they got magic damage added to the weapon as well as special ammo with high magic attack bonus. At least Mythic cors won't have to worry about shooting their Animikii Bullet anymore.

On the other hand ranged mythics still have worse AM3. The magic dmg stat on them looks cool but remember it does little to magic dmg with high base dmgs so in this case it doesn't really do much. The +50 agi on Armageddon will actually increase dmg more on the ranged magical ws. In fact arma just might be better overall... better aftermath better wf before count ammo though worse tf/ls dmg better physical dmg