Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

[Demon6324236]

Do I agree that they need upgraded? Yes, do I agree they should be upgraded because they are in any way difficult or hard? No, I believe they should be upgraded because of the large amount of investment that any player puts into making one, not difficulty, but rather the act of perseverance it takes to achieve such a weapon.

The issue with upgrading them is that as it has been said before, if they increase gear levels beyond what they are now, but put RMEs at the current level cap of roughly 120 then it will be meaningless. They will be cool for a month, next month level 125 weapons will come out which blow these away and have a ton more accuracy, so we will use those, and just learn our Emp WS if our merit one sucks like WAR, then move along.

[Richwood]

Why is there still no new news since May? Can the Devs give us a bone please, let us know the progress of things?

[Demon6324236]

•Relic, mythic, and empyrean weapon revamps
•Unlocking empyrean weapons skills
•Artifact revamps
Sorry to keep you all waiting on this without giving a time-frame, but for the above three points we are currently making preparations to implement all of them simultaneously in the version update to take place in fall.

For the artifact equipment revamps, we are planning to make it so you can bring artifact equipment up to the standards of geomancer and rune fencer artifact equipment. Hang in there for more information related to the quests for this.

They have actually, just no one sees it, this is from August 21st.

[pretre]

I saw it and I appreciate the fact they said something about it but its still lacking in info. would be nice if they said if there going with original idea of dmg just below boss weapons or not or any info really, all we can do still is take guesses using 3 month old posts as a guide which could be no were near there new plans as they have said "were discussing the REM issue" a number of times since the sword stats were posted, but to be honest I do feel happier knowing this update is soonish, or maybe its because GTA V SOON!!!!!!!!!

[Demon6324236]

I now its not much, but it is an estimation of when we are going to be getting it. With any luck, we will hear more amount what exactly will be happening between RMECs & AF as well sometime soon. I just wanted to point out that we are not completely without hope, and its not as though we have heard nothing about them since may, we have had word, its just not very descriptive on what exactly will be happening. Trust me, I want to know as badly as you do what the details of the update will be, I really rather hope my Excalibur becomes better than my Buramenk'ah, then I can off-hand Bura & feel like a badass again. In all honestly, a lot of questions to be asked about them, any changes besides DMG? How much Skill? What do we need to do to get them? But for now, its at least something, a time frame, and while that doesn't mean much with SE, its better than simply staying quiet in my opinion.

[Demon6324236]

Were seriously arguing over the definition of a word at this point... Look, all I was saying is that it can take a lot of time, effort, and determination, but to me that does not make it hard or difficult, to be hard or difficult it has to be something that you can not always the winner, something which requires skill & strategy to win. Like I said, the Excalibur & Almace I made as well as my Attack Sword, 3 PDT Swords, 2 PDT GA, PDT Club, 3 PDT Axes, and the Ice staff I helped my GF make all took time and effort, yes, but none of them were difficult in the least due to the fact every one of them involved me fighting something weak as the goal except for Goublefaupe, and the occasional Bria or Sobek I soloed. As I said, I know they are time and effort taking, but they are not difficult, and not hard, that's all I have been saying, and its the last thing I am gonna say on the subject, because all were doing is arguing what a word means basically, and that word is, difficult.

[FrankReynolds]

aren't RME and Delve weapons all content that has gone to the wayside anyways? I mean is there some secret way to get them without having beaten all the content long before? You at least have to be in the zone to get most of this stuff, which implies that you are at least buying the items from people who got bored of the content long ago.

[Demon6324236]

See here's the thing, with this player base you have 2 options, Make RMEs the best, people will make RMEs, or do not make RMEs the best, and no one bothers. If you make them slightly better, just barely better than everything else, you will have a few people do them but not that many, and at the same time, we all know that people will exclude others based on it, just like people do now with Oats, Senbaak, and so on. You cant make them not the best and expect anyone to ever make a RME again besides the special use ones like Apoc or Yagrush.

[Afania]

See here's the thing, with this player base you have 2 options, Make RMEs the best, people will make RMEs, or do not make RMEs the best, and no one bothers. If you make them slightly better, just barely better than everything else, you will have a few people do them but not that many, and at the same time, we all know that people will exclude others based on it, just like people do now with Oats, Senbaak, and so on. You cant make them not the best and expect anyone to ever make a RME again besides the special use ones like Apoc or Yagrush.

There's a difference between best weapon being 1% ahead of 2nd best, or best weapon being 30% ahead of 2nd best.

Make REM 30% ahead of 2nd best option, the game would be REM only or don't play that job.

Make REM 1% ahead of 2nd best option, players using 2nd best weapon still perfectly capable of playing the job and do the content.

Making REM 1% ahead of 2nd best is the best way to keep everyone happy, those who likes REM has incentive to build one, and other players without REM can play the job too.

This game will NEVER become REM only if REM is 1% ahead of 2nd best. Not everyone want everything totally best of the best only to be 1% ahead, when you don't NEED to be 1% stronger to beat the content.

But if best weapon is 30% ahead, and dev balanced the content based on that fact, then that's how current game is, best weapon or don't come.

Now the game really isn't much better than REM only era, if you're new/returning player, you still can't make progress cuz you don't have a delve boss weapon, and you can't get one without a delve pt.

Ppl are over reacting about REM issues, it's ass easy to solve the problem if dev bother to try.