Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

[Lotto]

I don't rly follow all the issues against these new weapons. I understand that a decent amount of time was put into them, but still..

At the 75 cap time, ppl put in tons of time with end game events getting armor. Probably more time then, then they do now to make a weapon. When the game advanced and new content was introduced, those armors were no longer the best. Even with the eventual upgrades. Its just how things evolve. - The situation with the weapons now, is not much different. Ppl are just upset that they have to do more work again. Which i can partially understand.

But ppl quiting because a new weapon came out? Seriously? The company might not like it, but from a players perspective, if someone is going to rage quit over something as stupid as that, id rather have em gone now anyway'

You probably don't even own any of those said weapons to say that. Go spend months in dynamis/VW/Salvage or whatever to get a R/E/Ms at 99 and you'll understand how it feels.
Why did SE put trials to upgrade them to 99 if it's just to throw them out now? The problem here is the complete lack of communication and the huge slap in the face every R/E/Ms holders received.
Also what did they promise us? Allow us to use the weapon skills if we build a R/Es to 99? It sure was worth the ~150-200M invested. I'm sure everybody will spam Scourge with their new Great swords.

[Cljader1]

You probably don't even own any of those said weapons to say that. Go spend months in dynamis/VW/Salvage or whatever to get a R/E/Ms at 99 and you'll understand how it feels.
Why did SE put trials to upgrade them to 99 if it's just to throw them out now? The problem here is the complete lack of communication and the huge slap in the face every R/E/Ms holders received.
Also what did they promise us? Allow us to use the weapon skills if we build a R/Es to 99? It sure was worth the ~150-200M invested. I'm sure everybody will spam Scourge with their new Great swords.

I have 2 relics and 2 emps, and I tired of them, everyone has them. There's nothing special about REM anymore, especially emps and relics. The new crafting and delve weapon are the new top tier group, and its about time crafters get there version of crafted relics to call their own. Crafters had to sit idly by while our gear and weapons became obsolete, SE promised to restore us and they finally may have. Crafters should be the ones to make and control the gear output.

BTW there is nothing that states REM's should be the most powerful weapons in the game. First relics were the strongest, then emp where stronger than relics, then mystics became stronger than both of them, now the new skirmish/delve/crafted weapons are the strongest. Its funny how acronym REM was formed, relic owners and emp owners use to battle over which one should be the top tier weapon, and now they put there differences aside, formed the acronym REM in a effort to battle (SDC) skirmish/delve/crafted weapons. In essence this is the 4th installments of ultimate weapons SE is right on time with there installation.

[tyrantsyn]

I have 2 relics and 2 emps, and I tired of them, everyone has them. There's nothing special about REM anymore, especially emps and relics. The new crafting and delve weapon are the new top tier group, and its about time crafters get there version of crafted relics to call their own. Crafters had to sit idly by while our gear and weapons became obsolete, SE promised to restore us and they finally may have. Crafters should be the ones to make and control the gear output.

BTW there is nothing that states REM's should be the most powerful weapons in the game. First relics were the strongest, then emp where stronger than relics, then mystics became stronger than both of them, now the new skirmish/delve/crafted weapons are the strongest. Its funny how acronym REM was formed, relic owners and emp owners use to battle over which one should be the top tier weapon, and now they but there differences aside, formed the acronym REM in a effort to battle (SDC) skirmish/delve/crafted weapons. In essence this is the 4th installments of ultimate weapons SE is right on time with there installation.

This is where I'm going to disagree with you the most. Because the point of R/M/E is that the time invest is suppose to be the reward for one of the top weapon's of the game. It's even been stated like that in many responses from the Dev team when they've spoke about the difficulty in some of the stages of the weapon's.

And while I will agree it's a milestone to hit 110 crafting and crank out a +1 weapon with killer stats. And to be honest that in itself is a milestone end game weapon. It break's everything that R/M/E have been built on since they were introduce. Because you went from months to years invested time to something you can simply buy off the shelf. And that's just bulshit.

[Zohno]

I have 2 relics and 2 emps, and I tired of them, everyone has them. There's nothing special about REM anymore, especially emps and relics. The new crafting and delve weapon are the new top tier group, and its about time crafters get there version of crafted relics to call their own. Crafters had to sit idly by while our gear and weapons became obsolete, SE promised to restore us and they finally may have. Crafters should be the ones to make and control the gear output.

BTW there is nothing that states REM's should be the most powerful weapons in the game. First relics were the strongest, then emp where stronger than relics, then mystics became stronger than both of them, now the new skirmish/delve/crafted weapons are the strongest. Its funny how acronym REM was formed, relic owners and emp owners use to battle over which one should be the top tier weapon, and now they but there differences aside, formed the acronym REM in a effort to battle (SDC) skirmish/delve/crafted weapons. In essence this is the 4th installments of ultimate weapons SE is right on time with there installation.

you are tired of rem because everyone has them? i'm sorry for your weapons and you'll get tired really soon about these new ones, since more people will have them compared to the rem. and there is no M > E > R. each kind has pro and cons based on the job.

crafters should control what armor people use? you are out of your mind.
and if you think these are the ultimate weapons, you are really mistaken.

[Cljader1]

you are tired of rem because everyone has them? i'm sorry for your weapons and you'll get tired really soon about these new ones, since more people will have them compared to the rem. and there is no M > E > R. each kind has pro and cons based on the job.

crafters should control what armor people use? you are out of your mind.
and if you think these are the ultimate weapons, you are really mistaken.

Over 8 years I spend at least a billion gil to get my 4 crafts over +100, and so did many other hard core crafters, so where is our reward?? People use to laugh at the material crafters could make and rare/ex equipment killed most crafted gear. Its way past time the crafting community gets its day in the sun. Goldsmithers had to lvl on hexed gear on the road to 110 with 2-5 mil gil loss per synthesis and the same for blacksmiths, we damn sure deserve to have a gaint reward at the end of the rainbow. The ONLY way for crafting to get its respect is to give us material that highly desired and material that's among the strongest items in the game

[detlef]

I have 2 relics and 2 emps, and I tired of them, everyone has them. There's nothing special about REM anymore, especially emps and relics.

There is more to owning an ultimate weapon than just having something that others don't.

[Cljader1]

There is more to owning an ultimate weapon than just having something that others don't.

I agree with you, however I took up crafting so I can produce powerful items that no one else has. Moreover, for anyone who gave up alot of there social play to dedicate themselves to lvl a craft should be handsomely rewarded for there hardcore and dedication. I believe that hard work and dedication now allow accomplished crafters to produce crafted relic weapons.

[Zohnax]

I don't rly follow all the issues against these new weapons. I understand that a decent amount of time was put into them, but still..

At the 75 cap time, ppl put in tons of time with end game events getting armor. Probably more time then, then they do now to make a weapon. When the game advanced and new content was introduced, those armors were no longer the best. Even with the eventual upgrades. Its just how things evolve. - The situation with the weapons now, is not much different. Ppl are just upset that they have to do more work again. Which i can partially understand.

But ppl quiting because a new weapon came out? Seriously? The company might not like it, but from a players perspective, if someone is going to rage quit over something as stupid as that, id rather have em gone now anyway'

If you don't follow, why are you posting an opinion against what people are saying? Go back and read, then make an educated post.

[tyrantsyn]

I don't rly follow all the issues against these new weapons. I understand that a decent amount of time was put into them, but still..

At the 75 cap time, ppl put in tons of time with end game events getting armor. Probably more time then, then they do now to make a weapon. When the game advanced and new content was introduced, those armors were no longer the best. Even with the eventual upgrades. Its just how things evolve. - The situation with the weapons now, is not much different. Ppl are just upset that they have to do more work again. Which i can partially understand.

But ppl quiting because a new weapon came out? Seriously? The company might not like it, but from a players perspective, if someone is going to rage quit over something as stupid as that, id rather have em gone now anyway'

The point is this is like putting the horse before the carriage. They should have had a battle plan already in the works and in the game before they just started dropping higher end more advanced weapon's into the game. It's piss poor design plain and simple.

[Godofgods]

They should have had a battle plan already in the works and in the game before they just started dropping higher end more advanced weapon's into the game. It's piss poor design plain and simple.

new higher end content, new higher end armor, new higher end weapons... yes.. very poor design indeed. How could anyone do such a thing!?