I feel like Delve just made 90% of the Adoulin content irrelevant

[Hawklaser]

I have played WoW though I haven't lately but I'm almost certain in saying nothing in WoW takes the amount of devotion a R/E/M does. Bringing up WoW would be relevant is SE had said "sorry guys R/E/M are old new now" but they didn't they said they will get updated. Patience is a virtue that seems lost on people lately.

It took a while to get the gear for, and do the old 40man WoW raids. No problem with waiting on the information, but the problem of the new weapons isn't so much for those that currently have R/M/E but those that are currently working on them. As just consider the amount of time and/or gil one spends on obtaining one, and will need to compare that to the cost of the new AH-able weapons. So if you were someone working towards one, where is the better place to invest said time or gil when not much has been said about keeping R/M/E relevant?

Yeah a lot of them are better at the moment but some are still worse because the R/E/M brought more to the table than just damage.

And I understand there are a lot of other perks to current R/M/E than damage alone, but when the difference is upwards of 100 damage, I find it hard to see the R/M/E keeping up. Compare Ryunohige's damage of 151 and all its effects to 266 damage polearm with the same delay. And Ryo was considered one of the best weapons in the game. Granted the 266 one is likely to be hard to get, but that amount of damage difference is hard to make up in extra effects alone.

[scaevola]

The notion of beating Delve with just Legion and VW equips is ridiculous. These mobs are too powerful. Use the gear from before the expansion to incrementally increase your own power with new gear and work your way up step-by-step to acquire newer gear to beat Delve.

the step-by-step process is:

1) DAT mine
2) deactivate
3) wait until SE decides what they want FFXI to be before I resub, which if prior experience with other MMOs serves as a model is "maybe a year from now over a weekend when my wife is out of town and I am drunk"

the idea that I would spend 30 million gil on a simulacrum for a chance at a weapon barely strong enough to hurt an NM I have to kill (in an 18-man alliance) exactly once to get a KI so I can farm plasm to buy the ACTUAL weapon I need is beyond laughable

I have played WoW though I haven't lately but I'm almost certain in saying nothing in WoW takes the amount of devotion a R/E/M does. Bringing up WoW would be relevant is SE had said "sorry guys R/E/M are old new now" but they didn't they said they will get updated. Patience is a virtue that seems lost on people lately.

the concept of spending months on the patient construction of one status symbol (gear or no) is not something any WoW player would find fault with on its face (they regularly do way more for way less reward) but it makes exactly zero sense in a game with significant power resets every four months or so

[Triffle]

It's actually quite easy to get the Rare/Ex items from Delve. It's a point system which you can easily farm up by killing the weak mobs in the zones. Basically only other requirement to get the items is to kill only one of the NMs. I've been told they are not that overpowered by some people who've killing them and can take from 10 to 20 minutes to kill. Basically this is easier than Naakual bosses. Even the non-augmented versions of these items are overpowered, so I can imagine what happens when you are able to beef them up.

[Crusader81]

I actually had to triple take a look at this, then rub my eyes, I don't even....

Anyone else see this too? Or am I hallucinating?

[Asymptotic]

No I saw it



Just FYI I've done Delve twice (only once entering a fracture for 15 minutes before wiping) and have 1/10 the plasm to buy that

[Crusader81]

Lol

[Crusader81]

I don't even..

[Kaeviathan]

I'm really upset that all the cool looking gears became statistically obsolete in this game in comparison against newer equipments. In my opinion, the new equipments are humiliating.

I mean, how does a Ninja go from this...

Or this...

Or even this...

To this ; ;...

[Umisame]

I'm really upset that all the cool looking gears became statistically obsolete in this game in comparison against newer equipments. In my opinion, the new equipments are humiliating.

....

Because we will get better equipment, this is second set of adoulin and i think SE will add cooler sets. They said some time ago that they were going to add tiers of equipment/weapons, maybe one day we will see weapons with 500-999+ dmg xD

[Monchat]

I dont understand their philosophy on mage gear lol.

Anything less than MAB+300 on the SMN and BLM staves is total a garbage. Most DDs got a weapon at least 2x more damage. If you look at MNK/PUP, you standard H2H is Brawny adragas (D38) and the standards delve is D101..


Also who wants to do skirmish now seriously. Outdating content 1 month after release, really? Before anyone could actually get 9800 shards for the ghasty stones +2? or figure out the system..