Fell Cleaves...

[Demon6324236]

First sentence is all you need to worry about. I bolded the parts that are of importance. Are players still able to cleave after the defense update? I mean instant hate on the mage and high damage on the aoe dealer makes it sound like they'll be kinda dead.

I was able to FC Lizards at their max level in Misar with full buffs up (bergressor and such) which lowered my defensive options to nothing, and yet I was getting hit with hardly any damage. I had 47% PDT but still, that is low damage with those buffs, any WAR with 20~25% PDT should be able to cleave just fine so long as they have a decent RDM(360~440 skill...) casting Phalanx on them. That is easy in all honesty because RDM caps at 424 so thats not hard to hit if you cap it, and PDT gear is easy with Dux and a few random simple pieces in Abyssea.

[Horadrim]

First sentence is all you need to worry about. I bolded the parts that are of importance. Are players still able to cleave after the defense update? I mean instant hate on the mage and high damage on the aoe dealer makes it sound like they'll be kinda dead.

I survived for like 15 minutes in Abyssea as WAR/DNC while wearing primarily double attack gear (only PDT piece I had one was Dux feet) from the AH while holding every crab in the are next to the frogs in Misareaux -- the only reason I was there was because I wanted to D3 myself and after seeing how long it was taking I decided to try and test how long I could survive). It isn't hard at all to stay alive in Abyssea -- the defense update did very little, it seems.

[CrystalWeapon]

I've always hated the way they handle rmts. They use broad strokes way too often when dealing punishment. If there is a legit way to make money in this game, and rmts are using it then who gives a crap. They should be banning for suspicious gil transactions not legal ways to make gil.

Their shoot the hostage to save them approach is the reason why I never took up gardening/fishing to npc to make money, nor did I spam chocobo blinkers before the nerf. I was always afraid I'd get autobanned for doing something that was never against the rules, but still risky just for the fact that rmts were doing it.

[Horadrim]

I've always hated the way they handle rmts. They use broad strokes way too often when dealing punishment. If there is a legit way to make money in this game, and rmts are using it then who gives a crap. They should be banning for suspicious gil transactions not legal ways to make gil.

Their shoot the hostage to save them approach is the reason why I never took up gardening/fishing to npc to make money, nor did I spam chocobo blinkers before the nerf. I was always afraid I'd get autobanned for doing something that was never against the rules, but still risky just for the fact that rmts were doing it.

What's worse is that now RMT's will likely retreat to other activities. I expect to see them FC'ing themselves for Cruor, then selling brews to the highest bidder. Which will lead to mercenary work in general becoming suspect.

[CrystalWeapon]

What's worse is that now RMT's will likely retreat to other activities. I expect to see them FC'ing themselves for Cruor, then selling brews to the highest bidder. Which will lead to mercenary work in general becoming suspect.

It wouldn't be so bad if there were a system in place to plead your case if you accidently get banhammered. From what I've heard even if you got hit by the automated ban for surplussing gil, there is no way to reverse it.

[Yinnyth]

It wouldn't be so bad if there were a system in place to plead your case if you accidently get banhammered. From what I've heard even if you got hit by the automated ban for surplussing gil, there is no way to reverse it.

I heard that after the automated ban system bans your character, an automated delivery drone drops a flaming bag of poop on your doorstep. Doesn't make it true. Back in the day of Salvage duping, tons of people got banned, and there were stories of them appealing to SE regarding their ban. There is a system in place to reverse a ban, it's just standard customer support which is always a hellish experience for both parties involved.

And wait, since when is there automated banning? Yeah, they use methods to find certain behavior from players to isolate suspects, but it's a person, not a robot choosing who gets banned.

[CrystalWeapon]

And wait, since when is there automated banning? Yeah, they use methods to find certain behavior from players to isolate suspects, but it's a person, not a robot choosing who gets banned.

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...08/detail.html

I'm damn sure they've added more to their arsenal since then but I really don't feel like sorting through old news to find more STF posts.

[Alhanelem]

I want clarification that no normal and legitimate player will be punished for participating in or performing a similar type of party. There is no reason a normal legitimate player should be punished for taking actions similar to a RMT of who is breaking the rules when the normal player is not breaking any rules. Our actions are only similar in game, meaning the fact we perform these types of parties, not out of the game, where RMTs plan to make money from performing these parties.

There are many normal players who use these types of parties to fund Relics, Mythics, Emps, and gear in general, all of which are good reasons to do it, and not ban-able offenses. While I know this has been said before, I recently spoke to a GM who informed me that it is a punishable offense to host one of these parties no matter if you are found to be a RMT or not, and can result in a ban of your character.

How do you "clarify" this? Just asking.

II agree with the post below yours.

The issue applies to those people shouting 24/7 selling spots in a cleave. No normal person is going to cleave 24/7. If you are, I'm going to go ahead and call you an RMT.

On shiva, there are two people i've seen /yelling for cleaves all day every day.

The probability of all or most of the people buying in being gil-buyers is extremely high, as is the probability of the person taking the gil being RMT.

[Elexia]

The probability of all or most of the people buying in being gil-buyers is extremely high, as is the probability of the person taking the gil being RMT.

Hm, considering you can walk out a good dynamis run with at least 1.2m barring 100 drops as well, I doubt anyone has a need to buy gil lol. Most people I see buy in FC are established players, rarely do I see actually new players in FCs.

[Afrohatch1]

Paying 500k~ for a FC run makes you a gilbuyer? What is this, 2008? That's a pretty broad assumption, brah