Predictions on RUN Merits!

[Keyln]

So, while we wait for the next update, let's predict what the next patch will bring.

Tier 1:
Rune Damage: Each Merit raises the elemental damage of runes by 5%
Rune Resistance: Each Merit raises the elemental resistance of runes by 5%
Lunge Recast: Each Merit lowers Lunge Recast by 6 seconds
Liement Recast: Each Merit lowers Liement Recast by 12 seconds
Pflug Effect: Each Merit raises effect of Pflug by 5%

Tier 2:
Damage Conversion (Job Trait): Converts a % of physical damage to elemental damage dependent on Runes used. (e.g. Fire rune turns a % of physical damage to ice damage) Each merit level raises the % by 1% per rune.
Status Bash (Job Ability): Converts Rune into a status ailment on the enemy. The type depends on the Rune used. Each Merit level increases the effect of the status ailment.
Rune Enhancement (Job Trait): Increases the individual stats of the user, dependent on the runes used. Each Merit increases the stat by 1.
Defensive Ward (Job Ability): Increases elemental resistance of runes, but lowers damage from runes. Each Merit increases the elemental resistance, but does not lower the damage further.

What ideas do you have for Merits for RUN?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

If SE has any sense... it'll be Bardark and Barlight.

[Zagen]

Tier 1:
Effusion Recast (-6 seconds per upgrade)
Ward Recast (-6 seconds per upgrade)
Rune Effect (+2 Damage, +2 Resistance, +2 MDB per upgrade)
Swordplay Recast (-10 seconds per upgrade)
Swordplay Effect (+3 Accuracy and +3 Evasion per upgrade)

Tier 2:
Bardark (+2 Resistance per upgrade)
Barlight (+2 Resistance per upgrade)
Reflect (Spell, Recast 5 minutes, 20% damage reflected per upgrade)
Rune Instinct (Trait, +5 MDB per upgrade)

[orakio]

So far no guesses that do anything to effect physical mitigation issues. This would be extremely dissapointing.

[Horadrim]

So far no guesses that do anything to effect physical mitigation issues. This would be extremely dissapointing.

I've been saying that we should get Physical Damage to Magical conversion, but apparently folks have a problem with me and my posts. /Shrug/

We should give Bardark/light as actual spells. I'm not wasting merits on that and people should be ashamed of suggesting they waste two of our Tier 2 merits on it.

[orakio]

I've been saying that we should get Physical Damage to Magical conversion, but apparently folks have a problem with me and my posts. /Shrug/

We should give Bardark/light as actual spells. I'm not wasting merits on that and people should be ashamed of suggesting they waste two of our Tier 2 merits on it.

I agree on the bardark/light.

The physical damage to magical conversion is a good idea that fits thematically. The problem is how it works numerically as (outside of Shell) PDT on gear is far easier to acquire a solid set of imo than -MDT. The other problem is, Rune fencer magical mitigation isn't exactly impressive outside of their current harbored runes with ward:valiance or valliation up. This means the idea would have to be like Kelyn indicates, but doing so as a trait would be harder to implement(i imagine). Why is the trait harder? Because you couldn't code it to act as a 1 time check upon ability use, it would have to do the check on runes harbored on each instance of the trait going off.

I suppose part of the thing I see is that runes and enchantment effects don't HAVE to be elemental in origin, and that is the only way they are depicted currently. For example, a new rune "Ferrum" which is Latin for Iron and could represent physical properties and defenses rather than the more common elemental ones.

[Zagen]

We should give Bardark/light as actual spells. I'm not wasting merits on that and people should be ashamed of suggesting they waste two of our Tier 2 merits on it.

You logic can be used for every T2 merit spell currently in game. With that said I'm not ashamed to have given a go at what SE might actually think is a good idea despite my personal feelings on the matter.

Barlight/dark and ra versions should have been in the game from the get go considering a BRD could give resistances to light and dark elements. However that hasn't happened thus it's more than likely if we ever get them they're going to be something stupid like in T2 merits just like every other mage job that should have gotten spells without needing to dump merits into them. I guess you could argue that "maybe SE will change" and to that I'd say with the way things have gone I won't be holding my breath for change.

[Horadrim]

You logic can be used for every T2 merit spell currently in game. With that said I'm not ashamed to have given a go at what SE might actually think is a good idea despite my personal feelings on the matter.

Barlight/dark and ra versions should have been in the game from the get go considering a BRD could give resistances to light and dark elements. However that hasn't happened thus it's more than likely if we ever get them they're going to be something stupid like in T2 merits just like every other mage job that should have gotten spells without needing to dump merits into them. I guess you could argue that "maybe SE will change" and to that I'd say with the way things have gone I won't be holding my breath for change.

Yeah, it can be applied to most spells in the game -- but at least Protectra/Shellra V are useful, and meriting them makes them even better. AM2's all, for the most part, suck, and only certain Summoner abilities are worth meriting.

That doesn't mean RUN should be forced to suffer the same fate of wasted merit abilities/spells. If we're going to get merit spells, they need to be something actually useful. Just because it fits with the current trend of wasted energy doesn't mean you should endorse it by suggesting they stick to the habit. :/

You, especially, could come up with a better idea than that. It's not like we'll get anything we want specifically anyway, so why not put some real thought into it.

You're right about Effusion. I'm currently lvl 66 RUN, and it's all old-school xp gaining (no Abyssea xp leech crap), so Lunge is all I got in Effusion atm. It's nowhere near the effort it took in the real old days, but at least you get your skills close to cap and learn a job thoroughly. (Unlike some people who go 30>99 on an afternoon of aby xp leeching, then congratulate themselves on a job well done.)

Lunge is pretty much all you get. Gambit is fun, but still. Only two abilities in Effusion never made sense to me -- I'm sure they've ALWAYS had plans for more, seems weird that the base set is so limited.

In other news, I find all of the anti-Abyssea stuff really funny. It is like people who are anti-text messaging... It's fine to have your own preferences and interests, but the whole anti-movement rage never stops being hilarious.

[Zuidar]

I would also decide against having Barlight and Bardark as merit spells, because I can really see how their potency wouldn't be nearly as strong as the other 6 barspells if those two were to be merit-able. Now compared to Red Mage's Phalanx II, it wasn't nowhere as strong as Phalanx I at all, even if you fully merited it

[Keyln]

I definitely do NOT want to see Bardark/Barlight to be merit spells. I lean to having RUN Tier 2 merits be more of like the other physical classes, where there are two job abilities and two job traits.

The idea behind converting physical damage to magical damage is to allow the RUN to use his abilities to help reduce and mitigate some of the damage. Pretty much, it takes the damage in half, and gives the enemy an en-spell effect depending on the rune. This will allow the RUN to not only reduce the amount of physical damage he takes, but also allow resistances and job abilities to mitigate magical damage to come into play.

With that said, I'm curious as to what stats our artifact, relic, and empyrian armors will have.