Reive, PLD no TP gain from blocking

[Concerned4FFxi]

Ok, I waited several days to post this, now I am certain.

At first, I considered the possiblitly that I didn't get tp because the mobs died at the end of a revive and I thought maybe the lag was affecting things. This was not the case.

Basically, sometimes in reive I notice that I don't get tp from blocking mobs on Pld with Ochain and phalanx up. I usually take zero damage, and sometimes if I take zero damage, I won't get any tp back from blocking. I'n using creed gauntlets +2.

What will happen is I'll super tank the adds, either in a group for colonization reive or solo a liar reive. Solo is were I verified the condition.

As a Pld, supertanking, you notice the tp gain. I can almost self skill chain in a lair reive solo in my tanking set, thats how much tp a PLD gets from supertanking (in dyna I do self skill chain on pld/dnc). The point being, it's obvious when your not getting tp from mobs if you block and take zero damage. It's not something you'd miss.

I just soloed a lair reive in Yahse, had bees and mantis tping on me while I tp'd on the nest, finished around 6:40am today, my time (EST). About 1/3 of the way thru the nest's health, I stopped recieving tp from blocking the adds because I recieved zero damage the whole time. Now I was taking zero damage before, and for the most part of the fight. I don't know what causes it, I just know it's happened on many occasions, and now I'm certain it's not my imagination.

After I stopped recieving tp from the adds that were hitting me, eventually phalanx wore and I took some damage. As soon as phalanx wore and I recieved damage, my tp returned to normal, I started recieving tp from blocking, and I didn't have another problem for the rest of the fight. I finished/cleared it.

[Karah]

One of the Reive bonuses is application of Stoneskin, I don't know if that may have been your issue or not. I don't know if you still receive tp from a stoneskined hit, regardless of (zero) damage.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Shield_Mastery

In order to receive TP from being hit, it requires that the unblocked hit would have done more than zero damage. If you would have taken 0 damage (due to an effect such as Stoneskin or Phalanx), no TP will be gained even if your shield blocks.

[Bublex]

Greetings Concerned4FFxi,

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[Concerned4FFxi]

One of the Reive bonuses is application of Stoneskin, I don't know if that may have been your issue or not. I don't know if you still receive tp from a stoneskined hit, regardless of (zero) damage.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Shield_Mastery

In order to receive TP from being hit, it requires that the unblocked hit would have done more than zero damage. If you would have taken 0 damage (due to an effect such as Stoneskin or Phalanx), no TP will be gained even if your shield blocks.

Well, there's plenty of times I take zero damage when I block, probably because of phalanx. I've never had a problem before though. In dynamis I'm taking zero damage and like I said, self skill chaining. When I help people get their stones for the 99 level cap bcnm, I farm bats in fei yin, pulling all in the room (about 4-6), i'm taking zero damage there too and my tp goes thru the roof.

Also, I'm doing nothing different in Reives that i do else where. And, like I said, I do recieve TP from blocking in revives too, its really weird when it happens, because its not happening that often, only once an hour or so of reive. I've always been able to build tp this way, and because it only happens occassionally, and only in reive.

i feel very strongly about this being a bug and encourage others to test this.

[Thoraeon]

You have to have been able to take damage for TP to be gained (before calculating Phalanx).
Stoneskin prevents this (from Reive Unity for example).
Karah is correct.

Better description:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Shield_Mastery