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    This would definitely be a PLD type ability if it were implemented. Realistically though it'd be a buff sorta like blink/stoneskin that absorbs the next magic damage that hits you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    This would definitely be a PLD type ability if it were implemented. Realistically though it'd be a buff sorta like blink/stoneskin that absorbs the next magic damage that hits you.
    The actual job that uses Runic was a Rune Knight, which was very similar to RDM far more so than PLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    The actual job that uses Runic was a Rune Knight, which was very similar to RDM far more so than PLD.
    Except she could wear heavy armor. I always considered celes to be more of a PLD than anything. Although since she had native damage spells she'd be more akin to DRK.

    Either way it doesnt matter. This (the op) is basically just cover for magic damage, and it'd be a PLD ability (possible rdm could get it too though, see shield mastery)


    Quote Originally Posted by ManaKing View Post
    I'm betting they only read OP.
    Yeah i'm at work didnt have time to read the whole thing

    If you want PLD to get a new ability, then give them an AOE spell or JA that works like stone skin, but for magic damage only.
    I dont particularly care about pld getting a new ability, but the way you presented runic in the op is a pld ability, not rdm.

    After going back and reading the new runic ability I don't really have an opinion on it, it seems too complicated to actually get implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Except she could wear heavy armor. I always considered celes to be more of a PLD than anything. Although since she had native damage spells she'd be more akin to DRK.
    On a concept level, magitek knights (which is basically what Tina/Terra and Celes are) are rather close to Red Mages.

    The reason Paladins have cover is because of cecil who made it a staple ability for PLDs in FFIV. Runic and Cover have nothing to do with one another. That's not even going into how one belongs to a knight and the other belongs to a magic swordsman. PLD is of the former, RDM is of the latter (refresh-whoring notwithstanding).
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    On a concept level, magitek knights (which is basically what Tina/Terra and Celes are) are rather close to Red Mages.

    The reason Paladins have cover is because of cecil who made it a staple ability for PLDs in FFIV. Runic and Cover have nothing to do with one another. That's not even going into how one belongs to a knight and the other belongs to a magic swordsman. PLD is of the former, RDM is of the latter (refresh-whoring notwithstanding).
    Justify it however you like. Cover is a PLD ability because that's what tanks do. Magic cover would be the same way.

    Not that some random wiki is a reliable source, but:
    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Celes_Chere

    Celes's abilities are similar to Terra's. She has all-around high stats and equips swords, maces, some daggers, heavy armor, some hats and robes, and all shields. She also has access to female-specific equipment. Celes and Terra have almost identical equipment draws, except for the Cotton Robe, and their respective ultimate weapons in the Advance release - while Terra uses the Apocalypse, Celes wields the Save the Queen. Celes's ability is Runic, which negates the next magical ability used and heals Celes of an amount of MP equal to that ability's MP cost. As she is rescued from prison when she joins the party, Celes joins wearing only a Hair Band.

    Along with Terra, Celes is the second party member to be able to learn magic without equipping Magicite. Compared to Terra, Celes' spells are more defensive in nature,and she learns more status spells while Terra learns more damaging spells. She also learns Ice element spells, contrasting with Terra's fire spells.
    Anyway, i'm not gonna argue ff6 with you. The version of runic presented in the op is more PLDs flavor. Not saying that it's a bad idea or that RDM shouldn't get it or anything like that, i'm just being pragmatic. If SE implemented as in the OP it would be a PLD ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Justify it however you like. Cover is a PLD ability because that's what tanks do. Magic cover would be the same way.
    Except for the fact that FF paladins are weak in the magic department. This has always been the case, and is fine because the class still plays up to concept. RDM on the other hand is on the uphill battle, hence our discussions.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Except for the fact that FF paladins are weak in the magic department. This has always been the case, and is fine because the class still plays up to concept. RDM on the other hand is on the uphill battle, hence our discussions.
    They are also weak in the tanking department, but that's neither here nor there.
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