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    Make it easier to make gils

    Currently in the game its way too rough for new and returning players to make gils, making it feel more like a job instead of a game I think that SE should evaluate the prices of all the things sold by npcs, and perhaps add easier ways to make gils here are some suggestions.

    1.) Remove restriction from field and grounds of valor once per day tab and gil reward.
    2.) Increase the gils earned by beastman by atleast triple the amount.
    3.) Make crafting less complicated.
    4.) Increase the drop rate of items.
    5.) Lower the respawn time of NM around vana'diel.
    6.) Reevaluate the amount of gils earned from quests and from items sold to npcs.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    (It's "gil", not "gils." Gil does not change when made plural)

    First, you should understand that gil is supposed to come in slower when you're starting out- you also don't need as much, either. Everything you need is cheap from merchants in the first levels. Selling crystals on the AH is a good way to get some gil.

    Most of the things you listed would likely cause RMT to start farming those things- especially beastmen- the amount they give goes up with the mob's level, so combine gilfinder with tripled gil values and it would be worthwhile to just run around places like upper delkfutt's tower killing all the beastmen there- too easy.

    Gil from NPCing stuff needs to be balanced carefully- If it's too high, it sets a minimum price on the AH. If prices are higher on the AH, you need more gil, so changing this doesn't help things much.

    However, I thoroughly agree with your comment about Fields of Valor- These rewards should be higher considering you can only get the gil and tabs once a day.

    I'm not sure what you find complicated about crafting though. put a bunch of materials in a crystal and press OK. The crafting NPCs tell you many of the recipes, especially early on.
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    The prices gradually go up, for example gear easily goes to 50k at level 20 from npc, and spells are expensive too making it very unfriendly for new players. Yes I can farm beehives and stuff like that but the effort is not worth it I would have to farm for hours to get enough gils to focus on leveling.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    You have to understand that if gil is easier to obtain, prices will go up- People have more gil, therefore sellers are able to charge more. More gil at low levels only helps with buying things from NPCs. The only prices that can be kept under control are the prices of items also sold by NPCs (as you can't sell stuff easily on the AH for much more than what the NPC charges in most cases).

    Gil doesn't exist in a vaccum- it has to be destroyed as much as it is created. You can't just create more gil to solve this problem (Though, as I noted, I agree with you that the impact of FoV rewards is too small).
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    Rabbit hides sell for 20k a stack on Cerb. Just sayin.
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    Sell crystals you get on the AH, learn what else sells quickly, farm it; and other things everyone else did when they started playing this game. Eventually, gil will come very easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    The prices gradually go up, for example gear easily goes to 50k at level 20 from npc, and spells are expensive too making it very unfriendly for new players. Yes I can farm beehives and stuff like that but the effort is not worth it I would have to farm for hours to get enough gils to focus on leveling.
    see, THIS is the real problem. your first few levels of gear can indeed be purchased from an npc quite easily. but as you level up that gets really expensive really fast, and when you consider nobody crafts and sells mid level gear on the ah anymore, you can end up a little boned.

    so i think the better solution here, is to lower the prices of, and dramatically increase the variety of, BASIC npc equipment.
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    I would say the 1-30 NPC equipment costs need to be re-evaluated. Mostly for those that are using the 14 day free trial. Even a very new player would benefit, as it is likely they won't use the AH until after they get going for a bit as well.

    While don't need as much gil in that level range compared to later, try keeping alright and close to your level of gear without use of the AH, or items/gil from other players. As those on the trial can't trade, use the delivery box, or use the AH.
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    Completely agree that any NPC gear beyond level 10 is ridiculous overpriced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfchakan View Post
    Completely agree that any NPC gear beyond level 10 is ridiculous overpriced.
    There are plenty of cheap lower lvl stuffs in AH. I mean with the way things are now, you can easily get to lvl 60s in a matter of days if you are casual, and get your artifact gears. Then pretty much after you hit that sweet spot in Abyssea, you can farm your gears from NMs and gradually buy AH gears from Voidwatch, Legion, Meeble, etc...

    But yeah - the game is not newbie friendly or easy to get into. You need a big amount of research to know what to do and where to do it.
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