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    Quote Originally Posted by nyheen View Post
    it a few exclusive very rare items around that you cant get anymore. few examples Laurel Crown & Stars Cap if you guys miss out on it that to bad. same goes for tidal talisman
    Your really comparing 2 items that were earned from a cross server test of skill to a merchandise tie in item... Completely different categories when it comes to comparing items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzell View Post
    Your really comparing 2 items that were earned from a cross server test of skill to a merchandise tie in item... Completely different categories when it comes to comparing items.
    It's a valid comparison. Both are special items only given out from a one time special event which [sadly in the case of ballista royale] never happened again. i'm sure the owners of those caps (if any still play) would not be so happy if they started giving those caps out as a regular participation reward for ballista.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's a valid comparison. Both are special items only given out from a one time special event which [sadly in the case of ballista royale] never happened again. i'm sure the owners of those caps (if any still play) would not be so happy if they started giving those caps out as a regular participation reward for ballista.
    No its really not, that's like saying Olympic Medals are in the same category as happy meal toys because they are both limited editions. The ballista hats were earned where as the talisman was bought. Its one thing to reissue something, both companies and artists do it all the time. I could find hundreds of examples of "limited edition" items that were reissued years later. On the other hand, those hats are trophies from a specific ffxi equivalent of a sports event. A trophy isn't something you reissue, although it can be replaced to its original owner.

    To be clear, a tidal talisman is not a trophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzell View Post
    No its really not, that's like saying Olympic Medals are in the same category as happy meal toys because they are both limited editions. The ballista hats were earned where as the talisman was bought. Its one thing to reissue something, both companies and artists do it all the time. I could find hundreds of examples of "limited edition" items that were reissued years later. On the other hand, those hats are trophies from a specific ffxi equivalent of a sports event. A trophy isn't something you reissue, although it can be replaced to its original owner.

    I could find hundreds of examples of "limited edition" items that were reissued years later.
    that doesn't make it OK unless you can distinguish the old ones from the new ones (e.g. they're numbered or labeled accordingly).

    To be clear, a tidal talisman is not a trophy.
    you're misrepresenting the issue here.

    I'm sure olympic medalists would not be happy if the IOC started giving away actual olympic medals on its website to anyone who wanted one. I'm sure die hard collectors of mcDonalds toys would be similarly upset if they rereleased a set of toys that were not supposed to come back.

    It's the same thing. The only thing changing in your example is the scale.

    To be clear, a tidal talisman is not a trophy.
    Actually, it pretty much is. The only sense in which it isn't is that it isn't honoring an accomplishment. You can't say money has never bought recognition.

    Any time something is offered as an exclusive, and then it later beocmes not exclusive, a company is reneging on a promise. generally in the case of "exclusive DLC" if it becomes released more widely in the future the company will generally state its plans to do so and will usually call it an early release, not exclusive content.
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