Make it easier to make gils

[Demon6324236]

Yes, my way was slow, but I wasn't in any real rush. It could be that I am more patient than a lot of players, that I do the tedious grind and don't really care about rushing into endgame. Methods are out there if you are looking to build a slow and steady income instead of waiting for that one big windfall.

How long did it take you to get to level 7? My friend went outside of Windy and hit level 7 in less than a hour during double XP, so normally you are looking at around a hour and a half. He was not rushing, but again, unless you run around the wiki for hours learning how to make money and what to do, you will end up to broke for things. I spent about 3 hours just farming up money for level 10 gear for his WAR and a Claymore, now hes on the real game and actually likes it cause I loaned him 100k to start him off, before he hated it.

[Vagrua]

How long did it take you to get to level 7? My friend went outside of Windy and hit level 7 in less than a hour during double XP, so normally you are looking at around a hour and a half. He was not rushing, but again, unless you run around the wiki for hours learning how to make money and what to do, you will end up to broke for things. I spent about 3 hours just farming up money for level 10 gear for his WAR and a Claymore, now hes on the real game and actually likes it cause I loaned him 100k to start him off, before he hated it.

I was lucky enough to have someone loan me 20k when I first started to get me on my feet. Some moat carp fishing gave me most of my income when I first started the game. That small amount gil doesn't amount to much anymore considering end game gear is 1m+ for most useful items.

You have to take your chances with either Voidwatch getting plates/cells to sell from shout groups or farm Dynamis/Limbus these days. The only other choices I can think of are mercing or if you have a linkshell, to farm ADL/PW for gil splits.

[Rustic]

How long did it take you to get to level 7? My friend went outside of Windy and hit level 7 in less than a hour during double XP, so normally you are looking at around a hour and a half. He was not rushing, but again, unless you run around the wiki for hours learning how to make money and what to do, you will end up to broke for things. I spent about 3 hours just farming up money for level 10 gear for his WAR and a Claymore, now hes on the real game and actually likes it cause I loaned him 100k to start him off, before he hated it.

Trial accounts are fundamentally non-functional for long periods of play at the same levels as a real one. Simple as that, or else we'd be sitting here with tons of RMT "trials" hosing everything in sight. I'm not surprised that his economic woes were there, if you wanted to have a character geared like a real one...handing him Gil the game system normally expects him to get via AH transactions was one of the few ways to do it.

I've always found the most important thing to teach a new player IS the importance of the AH in the game. Without it, getting geared up is a difficult task (barring outside assistance). If a player's going past level 10? He's gonna need to be able to tap into that if he wants to actually gear up, or be very careful on what they hunt. A gobbie-and-crawler hunting newbie ends up with a ton more money than the same newbie that got leveled up rapid-fire on whacking bumblebees, because the vendor-sales + gil drops add up better.

Unfortunately, if you gave trial players AH access, they'd just be turned by RMT into Gil-transfer mules. It's a catch-22.

[Kincard]

Gil doesn't really need to be any easier to get but I do strongly agree they should adjust the price of armor from vendors for the sake of newer players. It's not like any of it has any real use. Occasionally someone might use them in craft skillups (like making chainmail into silver mail etc) but I doubt that's really such a big deal.

Alternatively people in the past have suggested allowing people to buy basic armor using tabs, which is also a good solution.

[Brightshadow]

Sorry it took me so long to respond.

1.) Since nobody crafts lower level gear anymore because leveling is much faster, it will be very unlikely for a new or returning player to buy gear from the AH unless its a rare piece of armor that will cost millions.

2.) I know that SE makes Gil hard to obtain because of RMT but in end they aren't really helping they are actually hurting the playerbase because a new player would have more limited options and newer players would be considered gimp.

3.) The prices from NPCs are way too high, starting off as a mage is very unwise because you would have to buy spells and armor while a damage dealer or tank would only need to buy gear and maybe a couple of spells.

4.) Buying gear from the NPCs is also a big lost to your Gil amount because unlike the AH you cannot regain a good amount of your Gil back and the prices are way too high for example the geomancer spells are around 8 million Gil so what my only alternate to playing a mage countless hours of farming or I would have to level something like a blue mage that doesn't buy it spells.

[Kojo]

In regards to GEO spells, I'd recommend having them randomly drop from reives, to let people undercut vendor NPCs.

[JouriStarz]

I honestly believe they made the Geomancer spells that ridiculous to help deflate the economy after the chocobo blinker craze.

[Xantavia]

I started a few months before WotG came out, so I can't say how long it took me to get to 7. But no field manuals and the old xp rates, along with xp loss, I can say it took more than a day. I didn't even know about the wiki at first (just Gamefaqs), but I talked to almost everybody in town and was able to figure out some quests that way.

[Luvbunny]

A lot of people were able to hit level 12-13 outside the starting zones in less than an hour during double xp weekend - and if you have the xp ring. Probably around 60-90 mnts top for newbies. Yes the game is so archaic when it comes to giving new players explanation on how to do things the right way. What is baffling is this, they can give brand new players a symbol next to their names but cannot give NPC Quest similar symbol to make sure people know who to ask.... This company and this game is indeed very backward and antiquated...

[Demon6324236]

My point was with the leveling at the speed it is today people can not make that much money as fast, its why new players often end up either in gusgen at level 30+ with level 1 gear or they end up running around soloing things in much the same condition, but occasionally die and get a free warp back home, where they might find some level 7 gear they can buy one or two pieces of gear for before heading back out again.