Make it easier to make gils

[Kojo]

You mention in one post that gear is too high from Vendors, I know, but I think this was intended to make it easier on crafters to sell equipment and on newer players to buy it. Unfortunately, after Abyssea, most people get lv 30 and leech to 99 in Abyssea, so gear between lv 30 and 90~ is hard to come by because many people just didn't use it.

[Demon6324236]

Helping my friend out when he played the trial months ago I found it impossible to think this game could possibly be fun, because when playing it with him and helping him out I had to make him some money for gear. Because you can not trade players, or in any way get gil from one person to another, I took about 3 hours to farm items for him to turn in for quests and NPC in order to get him enough money for some armor from a NPC in Windy as well as a level 10 Claymore from Mhaura. If I did not show him the quests to do for more gil, it would have taken him even longer, that day we spent more time farming than he did leveling up, just so his gear would not be total crap. They really need to lower the NPC prices on gear, because now days you can not make enough money to keep up, not by a long shot, and unless you start the real game and are lucky enough to either know someone who will give you money or meet a kind stranger willing to donate some money, it is a complete pain to actually get yourself started.

[Demon6324236]

You mention in one post that gear is too high from Vendors, I know, but I think this was intended to make it easier on crafters to sell equipment and on newer players to buy it.

There was a time when this was ok, but now with the leeching and all that which goes on, the main people effected by these prices are the people who are on the trial, and its impossible to really have fun on the trial when you are trying to feel out the game and at the same time can afford nothing without looking things up on the wiki for a few hours, not to mention the normally dead and abandoned zones you are running through. This is simply one of the things which help to deter players when playing the trial. Not saying your wrong, you actually make a very good point, but the fact is that it is doing more harm than good today, especially with the no AH/Trading rules of the trial version.

[Xantavia]

I never really found it that bad to gear up armor recently (even though I do have old odds and ends tossed in MH).
(low levels for melee oriented jobs)
lvl 1 event gear
lvl 7 leather armor (cheap from NPC's)
lvl 16 bone armor
lvl 21 beetle armor (these 2 are relatively low level synths, and bonecraft is pretty easy to level. 1 crystal, 1 item)
lvl 30ish RSE gear
lvl 50 Start getting AF
Past this, there should still be some key pieces available on the AH, like a scorpion harness or haubergeon.

I'll let you in on a secret too. Don't level through easy prey in GoV parties. Strike out on your own and slowly level up. Then take all those delicious Conquest Points to buy armor/weapons. Gear yourself up with it, or sell it on the AH. I picked up a few lvl 30 items from Bastok recently, wore it for a few levels then sold it off quick.

[Demon6324236]

In all honesty most of what you just said is based on the idea you have money before hand, which is fine, most do, but new players are unable to do much of what you said because they can not afford it, for instance the lv7 leather armor you mentioned, which is unaffordable even if you level just outside of your home country and NPC everything, which a new player is likely to do. This problem does not effect current players, but rather new players, and seeing as this game does need new players, it is quite the concern.

[Kincard]

Gil doesn't really need to be any easier to get but I do strongly agree they should adjust the price of armor from vendors for the sake of newer players. It's not like any of it has any real use. Occasionally someone might use them in craft skillups (like making chainmail into silver mail etc) but I doubt that's really such a big deal.

Alternatively people in the past have suggested allowing people to buy basic armor using tabs, which is also a good solution.

[Brightshadow]

Sorry it took me so long to respond.

1.) Since nobody crafts lower level gear anymore because leveling is much faster, it will be very unlikely for a new or returning player to buy gear from the AH unless its a rare piece of armor that will cost millions.

2.) I know that SE makes Gil hard to obtain because of RMT but in end they aren't really helping they are actually hurting the playerbase because a new player would have more limited options and newer players would be considered gimp.

3.) The prices from NPCs are way too high, starting off as a mage is very unwise because you would have to buy spells and armor while a damage dealer or tank would only need to buy gear and maybe a couple of spells.

4.) Buying gear from the NPCs is also a big lost to your Gil amount because unlike the AH you cannot regain a good amount of your Gil back and the prices are way too high for example the geomancer spells are around 8 million Gil so what my only alternate to playing a mage countless hours of farming or I would have to level something like a blue mage that doesn't buy it spells.

[Kojo]

In regards to GEO spells, I'd recommend having them randomly drop from reives, to let people undercut vendor NPCs.

[JouriStarz]

I honestly believe they made the Geomancer spells that ridiculous to help deflate the economy after the chocobo blinker craze.

[Xantavia]

In all honesty most of what you just said is based on the idea you have money before hand, which is fine, most do, but new players are unable to do much of what you said because they can not afford it, for instance the lv7 leather armor you mentioned, which is unaffordable even if you level just outside of your home country and NPC everything, which a new player is likely to do. This problem does not effect current players, but rather new players, and seeing as this game does need new players, it is quite the concern.

I have to disagree with this, since this is almost exactly what I did when I started a few years ago. I didn't know about the AH, never clicked on it, since I was thinking it would be like FF6 and 9 and i knew I didn't have a lot of gil to spend. Maybe I got lucky since I started in Windurst, but I farmed crawlers to make my money. 300 gil for turning in silk thread from crawlers. Got lucky every now and then with crawler calculus stones. The few times I ran into skeletons and got bone chips, turned them into bone hairpins (wind crystal + chip), then NPC'd them for like 120 gil.

Yes, my way was slow, but I wasn't in any real rush. It could be that I am more patient than a lot of players, that I do the tedious grind and don't really care about rushing into endgame. Methods are out there if you are looking to build a slow and steady income instead of waiting for that one big windfall.