Make it easier to make gils

[Luvbunny]

Completely agree that any NPC gear beyond level 10 is ridiculous overpriced.

There are plenty of cheap lower lvl stuffs in AH. I mean with the way things are now, you can easily get to lvl 60s in a matter of days if you are casual, and get your artifact gears. Then pretty much after you hit that sweet spot in Abyssea, you can farm your gears from NMs and gradually buy AH gears from Voidwatch, Legion, Meeble, etc...

But yeah - the game is not newbie friendly or easy to get into. You need a big amount of research to know what to do and where to do it.

[SinisterJoint]

There are plenty of cheap lower lvl stuffs in AH. I mean with the way things are now, you can easily get to lvl 60s in a matter of days if you are casual, and get your artifact gears. Then pretty much after you hit that sweet spot in Abyssea, you can farm your gears from NMs and gradually buy AH gears from Voidwatch, Legion, Meeble, etc...

But yeah - the game is not newbie friendly or easy to get into. You need a big amount of research to know what to do and where to do it.

New players cant do this, think about the rate that they gain traverser stones... (being a returning player, this is the problem I am having) They need to adjust the traverser stone gain rate as well IMO

[Alhanelem]

New players cant do this, think about the rate that they gain traverser stones... (being a returning player, this is the problem I am having) They need to adjust the traverser stone gain rate as well IMO

They dont' need to increase the stone gain rate. You can increase it yourself by accomplishing abyssea tasks. That being said, they could do something to make getting those boosts to stones easier to obtain, or allow people to buy their way in like with the airship pass / audolin teleport.

Once you've done those things, your stone supply is essentially limitless. I have over 2300 traverser stones, even though I visit abyssea on a regular basis.

[SinisterJoint]

They dont' need to increase the stone gain rate. You can increase it yourself by accomplishing abyssea tasks. That being said, they could do something to make getting those boosts to stones easier to obtain, or allow people to buy their way in like with the airship pass / audolin teleport.

Once you've done those things, your stone supply is essentially limitless. I have over 2300 traverser stones, even though I visit abyssea on a regular basis.

even with all 3 abyssites, its still slow. 30minutes per stone is by far not a lot of time. Think about it from a new player/returning player standpoint.

New expac brings old players (who might not have had abyssea) and new players. They get in and start their stone timer. Even a week's worth wont get you far. Ever try farming boots from gold chests ? Seal farms don't exactly always drop what you need/want.

Its not allowing new/returning players to get in on the action, there is only so much outdated content someone can do before they get bored.

the key is to start earning stones BEFORE you take your hiatus.

Tell me about it, I wish I had.

[Kojo]

You mention in one post that gear is too high from Vendors, I know, but I think this was intended to make it easier on crafters to sell equipment and on newer players to buy it. Unfortunately, after Abyssea, most people get lv 30 and leech to 99 in Abyssea, so gear between lv 30 and 90~ is hard to come by because many people just didn't use it.

[Demon6324236]

You mention in one post that gear is too high from Vendors, I know, but I think this was intended to make it easier on crafters to sell equipment and on newer players to buy it.

There was a time when this was ok, but now with the leeching and all that which goes on, the main people effected by these prices are the people who are on the trial, and its impossible to really have fun on the trial when you are trying to feel out the game and at the same time can afford nothing without looking things up on the wiki for a few hours, not to mention the normally dead and abandoned zones you are running through. This is simply one of the things which help to deter players when playing the trial. Not saying your wrong, you actually make a very good point, but the fact is that it is doing more harm than good today, especially with the no AH/Trading rules of the trial version.

[Demon6324236]

Helping my friend out when he played the trial months ago I found it impossible to think this game could possibly be fun, because when playing it with him and helping him out I had to make him some money for gear. Because you can not trade players, or in any way get gil from one person to another, I took about 3 hours to farm items for him to turn in for quests and NPC in order to get him enough money for some armor from a NPC in Windy as well as a level 10 Claymore from Mhaura. If I did not show him the quests to do for more gil, it would have taken him even longer, that day we spent more time farming than he did leveling up, just so his gear would not be total crap. They really need to lower the NPC prices on gear, because now days you can not make enough money to keep up, not by a long shot, and unless you start the real game and are lucky enough to either know someone who will give you money or meet a kind stranger willing to donate some money, it is a complete pain to actually get yourself started.

[Xantavia]

I never really found it that bad to gear up armor recently (even though I do have old odds and ends tossed in MH).
(low levels for melee oriented jobs)
lvl 1 event gear
lvl 7 leather armor (cheap from NPC's)
lvl 16 bone armor
lvl 21 beetle armor (these 2 are relatively low level synths, and bonecraft is pretty easy to level. 1 crystal, 1 item)
lvl 30ish RSE gear
lvl 50 Start getting AF
Past this, there should still be some key pieces available on the AH, like a scorpion harness or haubergeon.

I'll let you in on a secret too. Don't level through easy prey in GoV parties. Strike out on your own and slowly level up. Then take all those delicious Conquest Points to buy armor/weapons. Gear yourself up with it, or sell it on the AH. I picked up a few lvl 30 items from Bastok recently, wore it for a few levels then sold it off quick.

[Demon6324236]

In all honesty most of what you just said is based on the idea you have money before hand, which is fine, most do, but new players are unable to do much of what you said because they can not afford it, for instance the lv7 leather armor you mentioned, which is unaffordable even if you level just outside of your home country and NPC everything, which a new player is likely to do. This problem does not effect current players, but rather new players, and seeing as this game does need new players, it is quite the concern.

[Xantavia]

In all honesty most of what you just said is based on the idea you have money before hand, which is fine, most do, but new players are unable to do much of what you said because they can not afford it, for instance the lv7 leather armor you mentioned, which is unaffordable even if you level just outside of your home country and NPC everything, which a new player is likely to do. This problem does not effect current players, but rather new players, and seeing as this game does need new players, it is quite the concern.

I have to disagree with this, since this is almost exactly what I did when I started a few years ago. I didn't know about the AH, never clicked on it, since I was thinking it would be like FF6 and 9 and i knew I didn't have a lot of gil to spend. Maybe I got lucky since I started in Windurst, but I farmed crawlers to make my money. 300 gil for turning in silk thread from crawlers. Got lucky every now and then with crawler calculus stones. The few times I ran into skeletons and got bone chips, turned them into bone hairpins (wind crystal + chip), then NPC'd them for like 120 gil.

Yes, my way was slow, but I wasn't in any real rush. It could be that I am more patient than a lot of players, that I do the tedious grind and don't really care about rushing into endgame. Methods are out there if you are looking to build a slow and steady income instead of waiting for that one big windfall.