[dev1001] Item stacking

[Ryak]

Well the thing is with stacks of 12 for those,you would still run out of room too quickly.Which is why stacks of 99 for crafting materials is perfect. Especially when your trying to mine or log. You have a tendancy to fill up extremely fast.So even just a stack of 12 could be a pain.It also allows you to keep the other stacks you would not use or need to help pay for other crafting needs.

This could in turn,offer new crafting possibilities. It would allow them to create or change existing recipes to require more materials to create an item.

[Seriha]

I'll just mirror concern on crystals to 99. For a lot of mobs, that'd mean having to kill 99 non-elemental critters solo to make yourself a stack, and mobs don't always drop a crystals (sometimes they just plain can't, be you in Abyssea or in a Beastmen held zone). Without an actual overhaul in available AH space, people will be limited to selling 1 at a time in a lot of cases. From the buyer's end, I don't want have to sit down buy 20+ individual crystals if the options are just 1 and 99. Retaining the 12 would also mean the AH would need to institute another check in the listing process to not only remove the listed items from your inventory, but to guarantee leftovers aren't eaten. That might introduce some complications into the item ID process, especially if you have more than one stack.

Seriously. 12 > Cluster option > Stack Clusters to 12. Even when Colibri were the in thing, I don't think I ever walked away from a party with over 144 wind crystals, and it wasn't for lack of space in that level range.

[Michae]

Honestly, the number of 'new players' are so few that they shouldn't really be taken into consideration these days, and besides, I doubt crystal sales will be affected too badly. Crystals have among the highest sales rates and, last I checked, they still don't drop in Abyssea.

The only thing that would have a positive effect for the dozen or so new players would be a full AH merge, which from what I remember, is in the works anyways.

One of the reasons there are so few new players is cause so many current players dont take them into consideration. Its dark days for ffxi in that regard right now. Thank you Abyssea.

On another note, Id really really like to see pet food and jugs go up to 99 as many others have stated, even 24 or 36 would be fantastic. Automaton oils too!

[Vold]

If the dev team seriously considers crystals being stacked to 99, I think this is a good time to point out it is an opportunity to artificially increase crystal supply by turning clusters into x99 crystals. This pumps more crystals into an economy that is starving for crystal supply. You also don't have to ruin things by Abyssea monsters dropping crystals which seems to be the popular solution to the crystal supply crisis by players who don't quite understand the reason why they don't already drop crystals.

[Ryak]

I'll just mirror concern on crystals to 99. For a lot of mobs, that'd mean having to kill 99 non-elemental critters solo to make yourself a stack, and mobs don't always drop a crystals (sometimes they just plain can't, be you in Abyssea or in a Beastmen held zone). Without an actual overhaul in available AH space, people will be limited to selling 1 at a time in a lot of cases. From the buyer's end, I don't want have to sit down buy 20+ individual crystals if the options are just 1 and 99. Retaining the 12 would also mean the AH would need to institute another check in the listing process to not only remove the listed items from your inventory, but to guarantee leftovers aren't eaten. That might introduce some complications into the item ID process, especially if you have more than one stack.

Seriously. 12 > Cluster option > Stack Clusters to 12. Even when Colibri were the in thing, I don't think I ever walked away from a party with over 144 wind crystals, and it wasn't for lack of space in that level range.

Honestly would you really want to bother wasting time to turn them into clusters every time you get a stack ? Eventually that would get quite tedious. Your 144 crystals would be turned into 2 stacks / 2 slots instead of 12 stacks / 12 slots. The game and Auction House already knows how to read stacks of 99. The game mechanic is already there.

[Auredant]

That post was not about your post. It was for Auredant's post. The part where he said new players would not make more money from it,and I disagreed with it.

Time will tell...but it's logical to assume that if crafter's can hold more crystals wit less space than they wont need to buy off the AH. The only ones who would would be the ones who never exp outside abbyssea i suppose.

[Bhujerba]

Nah I don't think so. People still go out and buy a lot of them,it would be the same thing as buying a stack.This way just saves space.

a tank has a cooldown of 1 min between use if I'm not mistaken, which is one of the limitation I mentioned earlier, this is completely fine because it will prevent spamming. now that I think about it, SE already have a system in place for potion/ether stacking, using tanks, I just wish they expand it and add various tank types for other unstackable consumables.

potion/ether spam is one of the oldest balance issue in MMO, SE devs knew this very well, except they had a very annoying way to limited .

[Guardian]

Allowing many/most items to stack to 99 would be great, but only if they keep the option to sell stacks of 12 on the AH. Hopefully it's not too difficult for them to make that happen (I wouldn't think so, but you never know). I wouldn't want to have to choose between buying 1 silk thread and buying 99 silk thread as my only options.

Yeah seriously, it'd really hurt the crafters (cooking, here) if they have to start selling everything as x99, a 15k stack of 12 Zeta is going to be 124k as x99. Don't see a lot of people wanting to pay that.

[Guardian]

Oh, or 578k for a 99 stack of Dipper. >.> Idm the stacking, but yeah we should have the option to still sell them in groups of 12.

[Guardian]

Nah I don't think so. People still go out and buy a lot of them,it would be the same thing as buying a stack.This way just saves space.

I'm pretty sure Bhu means it'd get abused because it saves space. Who's going to live longer, the person with 10 Hi-potions, or the person with 120? I could solo pretty much anything I wanted to if I could hold that many on BST.