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    Rieves MPK fest

    too many times i see Ochain PLDs using dagger AoE WS while fighting in rieves, its ok as long as they have hate but when they dont and wake up all the sleeping mobs who have hate on someone else they die in 2 seconds flat, i fight in rieves as a BLU and use AoE damage+stun followed right away by sleepga, this is of course ruined by people who run in carelessly and aoe ws
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    Warn them that you'll call a GM for MPKing, if they continue to do it call a GM...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Warn them that you'll call a GM for MPKing, if they continue to do it call a GM...
    "Reives are functioning as intended, this is not a bug, this is by design."

    I don't see GMs able to do much in this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojo View Post
    "Reives are functioning as intended, this is not a bug, this is by design."

    I don't see GMs able to do much in this situation.
    How does that affect:

    Player 1 sleeps a monster.
    Player 2 wakes that monster without doing enough damage to lock hate.
    Player 1 now gets hit by said monster.

    This is an obvious definition of MPK from the 75 days...

    Reives working as intended has nothing to do with players being stupid. If you see a BLU with a bunch of monsters looking at them and not attacking it should be obvious they are slept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    How does that affect:

    Player 1 sleeps a monster.
    Player 2 wakes that monster without doing enough damage to lock hate.
    Player 1 now gets hit by said monster.

    This is an obvious definition of MPK from the 75 days...

    Reives working as intended has nothing to do with players being stupid. If you see a BLU with a bunch of monsters looking at them and not attacking it should be obvious they are slept.
    MPKs are intended, depends on context, really. Unless Player 2 woke mob without taking hate with the intention of killing Player 1, a GM will do nothing as he runs the risk or accusing and issuing a warning flag to a player who did nothing wrong besides not pulling hate. This could only be called an "MPK" by similarity, in that one player indirectly kills another. A GM won't (or atleast shouldn't) ban, issue warnings, or usually even contact a player on assumption alone, it usually just ends in them telling you that they will investigate, then they do and if they can't find proof, they do nothing.

    Sorry, I just don't think you have a case. But I do agree that the shared aggro should be taken out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    How does that affect:

    Player 1 sleeps a monster.
    Player 2 wakes that monster without doing enough damage to lock hate.
    Player 1 now gets hit by said monster.

    This is an obvious definition of MPK from the 75 days...

    Reives working as intended has nothing to do with players being stupid. If you see a BLU with a bunch of monsters looking at them and not attacking it should be obvious they are slept.
    Unless they're waking mobs with Diaga, then laughing as you die, then it's not an MPK. Big difference between someone waking mobs with very little hate intentionally, and waking mobs trying to pull hate, but failing.

    The one MPK that really grips my sh1t, is when you sit at a lair reive waiting for more people to join, maybe just soloing 1 or 2 mobs, and some d*ck runs straight through it, training all the mobs to you then leaves the area... this should cause instant K.O. to the player that did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    The one MPK that really grips my sh1t, is when you sit at a lair reive waiting for more people to join, maybe just soloing 1 or 2 mobs, and some d*ck runs straight through it, training all the mobs to you then leaves the area... this should cause instant K.O. to the player that did it.
    This is the single most annoying thing about doing Lairs, soloing them on BST is easy but having to avoid the train of mobs people pull to me as idiots, thats much harder because most of them are sound, so I have to find a nice spot with nothing around to even have a chance of surviving it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    Unless they're waking mobs with Diaga, then laughing as you die, then it's not an MPK. Big difference between someone waking mobs with very little hate intentionally, and waking mobs trying to pull hate, but failing.

    The one MPK that really grips my sh1t, is when you sit at a lair reive waiting for more people to join, maybe just soloing 1 or 2 mobs, and some d*ck runs straight through it, training all the mobs to you then leaves the area... this should cause instant K.O. to the player that did it.
    What I like to do if I'm not down to do a reive is I run in, then run back out the direction I came, lose my tag, then run through, no aggro, no problems, no MPK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    Can you imagine waking up each morning knowing that you would have to wrestle a man-sized radish to death in order to eat?
    Sorry, had to.

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    I hope eventually they'll add a WoE-style Auto-RR to Reives. The confrontation areas are so tight and the mobs often numerous enough when they start doing AOEs one after another it's tough for all but the most durable of us to stay upright.
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    he's probably just trying to get hate to supertank.

    a good paladin can hold every mob in a rieve with no support, freeing everyone else to mess up the root.


    so it's unlikely that it's malicious, in fact he's prolly just trying to help. the lack of coordination is what's fucking you.
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