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  1. #51
    Player Caketime's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xantavia View Post
    So Charm doesn't work in these areas and you can no longer just throw pets at things, swapping out when your current one gets low on health?
    I did my experimenting with Falcorr, Nazuna and Gorefang. Unfortunately I sold my Charm set some time ago, so I did not experiment with charmed mobs, but the problem I noticed was not with my pet getting killed too quickly, the enmity generation seems to be set really low since the update. I wouldn't have said a word about it but the difference since the update is significant enough that I'm not even considering my BST for anything halfway serious in the new areas.
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    What? BST is a pet job? And your pet does the work? Shocking!!!

    I've always had Pet PDT and personal DT gear.....something something HEAVY DD ARMOR SETS. I don't know where these lame BST comments keep coming from. Just because BST isn't a total cake walk suddenly means that it's done wrong. Charm BST was dicey and if you don't know that then you weren't a charm BST. The pearle and pink BST that people built for dynamis farming is not sufficient for Adoulin, but I would have thought that would have been obvious.
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  3. #53
    Player Caketime's Avatar
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    I like how comments about pet enmity generation warrant insults and posturing. You're better than me, that's fine, now can we get back to talking about what's broken and how we can work around it? I figured DT sets were obligatory, but is there anything else you can offer aside from snide comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caketime View Post
    Couldn't help but laugh at this, but to be honest, BST is in pretty rough shape at the moment as are all pet jobs. Pet -DT is much more important than ever, as is standing very still and doing nothing. I can let my pets melee for a few rounds and I pull hate away from them in a single attack round, could Snarl but then it would all come back on me after another attack round. My solution thus far has been to melee with the pet, transfer hate after WS while eating all damage and using Snarl after each heal/whenever possible, otherwise I'm sampling floor. -DT gear might become required if this trend continues, which kind of stings the inventory.
    In short, that's called doing it right. If you're a good enough BST then you can easily adapt to the changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    Even though the expansion was created for the new level cap it doesn't mean that they can't add monsters level 75 and higher, heck in TOAU many monsters were decent challenge to Incredibility tough yet level 55+ people were able to do experience parties in the continent and complete many of the assignments with assistance, as of right now the monsters in SOA are only suited for players that are level 99 making the continent useless for anything other than quests and missions; in addition, its very bad to make the content of an expansion only suitable for one level category in my opinion COP had the best progression system for all types of players.
    Lucky you that SE revamped many existing locations over the past year and a half with lvl80-100 mobs that no one ever levels at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horadrim View Post
    I don't know if you've noticed, but there is no other lv. 99-exclusive content in the game (and by that I am referring to zones that represent serious threats to appropriately geared lv. 99 characters). Previously every level cap has had its own levels, but Abyssea -- the last major addition of zones to the game -- stops at level 90. That's why, outside of NMs, the most difficult monsters you find in Abyssea all check DC-EM. There are no level 99+ mobs.
    This is incorrect. There are several enemies in heroes areas that become T for lv99 characters if you just do some light farming on them.
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    Player Nephilipitou's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kojo View Post
    Thanks for the advice. I dunno why no one offers advice before blasting people, though.
    You can buy sneak/invis items, you can level up /dnc you can level up /nin you should have both of them anyway, if you do actually play as Pup then I suggest that you think about /Sch as well cause sometimes you have to be more versatile even if it cuts your damage a bit.

    If you're not willing to contribute to the economy and you're not willing to do the work then what on earth are you playing FFXI for?

    I leveled Sch back in the day JUST to get through Vunkerl Inlet (S) and other areas till I made my way all the way to San D'Oria (S) as a level 25 Sch. I was like a 45 DRK maybe higher back then... I didn't have gil, so I leveled up scholar and got the spells spammed <pos> and alt+tab, rested when I needed to get MP, and eventually after many deaths, and reraises, I finally made it.

    This expansion is made for teaming up. You can't solo reives unless you're a BST on a Nest doing things just right and even then you wont' get good bayld for it. FFXI is not designed to be easy.

    Go and level up Nin you'll need it. If you don't want to spend the gil on Utsusemi Ichi then go do worm parties for Zinc Ore while you're meriting. There are plenty of options. Don't ask for a nerf just because you don't want to work hard or participate in the economy.
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    Last edited by Nephilipitou; 04-12-2013 at 02:29 AM.

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    Player Nephilipitou's Avatar
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    Charm absolutely works in Adoulin what the heck are you guys talking about? I charm all the time on BST when I run out of certain expendable jugs.

    Throw on Chatoyant Staff, throw on some of my bard CHR gear, throw on my BST AF2+2 pants, throw a charm, throw a familiar, and try not to die.

    If you are snk/invis you can use the "fight" command and your pet can just damage something without you or your pet EVER getting haste as long as you reapply every once in a while when the coast is clear.

    You get absolutely terrible bayld but i have no idea what some of you guys are talking about. Do you not know what you're doing? Also don't party up if you're going to use that technique because... duh, party enmity has a chance of throwing a wrench into the works. If you got 5-10 BST to do this, I gurantee you could take out a lair reive without anyone getting hurt if done properly. If done improperly you all wipe run back, and finish where you left off. It can be done on a colony reive too but that's a bit more tricky.

    Oh and there are TONS of 100+ enemies in the game now. They are just really deep into the zones and people don't need to go there so they don't because there's not enough reward to make it worthwhile to make 6 people go in just to zerg some 99+ mobs.
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    Last edited by Nephilipitou; 04-12-2013 at 02:38 AM.

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    Player Zagen's Avatar
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    I decided to play with a few different options, some geared properly and some well I rushed them.

    - RUN soloing the new mobs is fun, sometimes scary but overall fun. I can completely negate the Paralyze from the butterflies' TP move (don't remember the name but does blind, paralyze, and silence)

    BLU soloing well it's just like it was before.

    BST soloing this is a bit of an oddity and inconsistent with the issues. I'm able to solo with Jug pets fine but occasionally have hate bouncing issues with various monsters. Charmed pets are fun but that's more of a sit back and watch kind of fighting.

    RDM just like before slow and boring. Might try super tanking like a PLD as RDM/BLU for Reives but that would require proper gearing so it will wait.

    Nephilipitou I see your confusion pertaining to Charm in the new areas. See below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nephilipitou View Post
    Throw on Chatoyant Staff, throw on some of my bard CHR gear, throw on my BST AF2+2 pants, throw a charm, throw a familiar, and try not to die..
    See this part here is where you're as they say "doin it right". Those who say it doesn't work are well not in the same boat as you.
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    Last edited by Zagen; 04-12-2013 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    This is incorrect. There are several enemies in heroes areas that become T for lv99 characters if you just do some light farming on them.
    I can accept that my post was 100% accurate in this regard then, but does this really count considering you have to already be fighting said mobs for them to become stronger? Additionally, the rest of the zone is as low as EP.

    Those zones may take into account, in their own way, the existence of lv. 99 players but that doesn't mean it was designed for them. Additionally, still, even the final boss is considered something of a joke by most people when you bring atmas and brews into play -- does that really represent true lv. 99 content?

    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Just saying, the floating eyeballs do. In Yashe and Moh.
    Those things made me laugh when I ran into them the first time yesterday.
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    Last edited by Horadrim; 04-12-2013 at 04:57 AM.
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