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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Coalition Voting Suggestion

    This was suggest elsewhere, but i cannot find who suggested it or what thread. But I think it needs to be restated because now, several days since the last evaluation, the same problem exists.

    I walk around to every Coalition, and the top suggestion is always winning "Not by much" (which in Adoulin Terms apparently means a couple thousand votes or something)... This is generally the Flag, or in cases of Flag already being owned, the Signboard.

    I, as well as many others (talking ~50-100 people) have spent the "tags" we earned since Sunday spamming Peacekeeper's Coalition for A chance to chose Signboard, so far, its never budged an inch from Flag. I know 50~100 Is not a lot in terms of an entire server, But when you consider you actually getting that many people to conciously work on upgrading a coalition, and they cant even dent the outcome because of the countless Button-mashers who have no idea what their vote goes too simply spamming enter to collect their ~500~1800 Balyd... its a saddening revelation that the entirety of progression is going to be determined by whats on the top of the list.

    With that said - The actually suggestion.

    Default the top option to be "Abstain", Forfeiting your vote. With this, those who actually care what their votes go to and why its important to chose wisely can succeed in improving the Coalition... While those who don't care can throw away their vote like they always do, except this time its not going to impact the rest of us negatively.

    Nothing is more depressing or pointless than spending the better half of 5 days working on the same coalition with dozens of players only to find out you aren't making any progress whatsoever.

    Please, please, make the top/default option "abstain". Make it actually feel like those of us paying attention and working are making a difference.

    As of now, there are apparently about 7 Upgrades, though only 3 currently available, and consider all Coalitions dont rank up simultaneously, without this option, it could be several weeks, worst case scenario months, before those working on improving a specific guild item see fruits of their labor, and will only see it once the option they want is the only one remaining or the top option.

    This is not so much a "WE'LL NEVER GET IT" so much as an option i feel is needed, or we may as well do away with the voting system entirely because as it stands now, without the option, it may as well just be randomly selected on leveling up, cause our votes dont matter in this current system.

    Sum it up: Nothing is more infuriating and depressing than to know your votes mean nothing to the ocean of Button mashers, and without a default "None" or "Abstain" option, voting is useless.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 04-06-2013 at 11:12 AM.

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    Player Muras's Avatar
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    I was just thinking about this today. I was thinking maybe they should randomise the order the options appear for voting, but adding an Abstain option works too. Either way, I totally agree on this topic and something should be done.
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    That would be a really good idea. I was baffled that lolcrystaldroprate was winning over increased synth skillups over at the inventor's coalition, then I realized people were probably just spamming the first option.
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    Please.

    If you aren't paying attention enough to read what each vote does, you shouldn't be voting. I also suggest before voting the NPC says explicitly what the vote counts towards in pink colored text.
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Are you sure they're button mashers? They could be old folks from Florida. You know how they are with voting.

    Seriously though I like your idea, Karb. They need to do something to prevent the inattentive and uninformed from affecting the vote, or as Sparth said, make it glaringly obvious what will be affected by the vote.
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    The original thread can be found here.

    +1'd. Thanks for helping give the issue more publicity.
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    It has been frustrating seeing that every dim or lazy person just tears down any progress towards what most educated players are working towards.
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    Making the default selection "none" or "abstain" is a good idea. Make it happen, SE!
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    While making "abstain" the default option would help with the immediate problem, I think they need to have an extra line of dialogue or two that explains what exactly a vote does and then have a yes/no confirmation afterward to solve this issue in the long run.
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    Last edited by Shadax; 04-07-2013 at 02:23 AM.
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    Player Andreja's Avatar
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    Yeah I second this idea. I've been working my tail off with the peacekeepers doing lair reives, and now patrol, to put in votes for the signboard. God knows I wouldn't be doing those over and over again without that armor. It is definitely frustrating that people would just spam the enter button without even thinking what they're voting for, and pretty much gives us legitimate voters who care for the outcome the middle finger. If we were to put in a yes/no confirmation suggested by the above poster, make the default option no.
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    Last edited by Andreja; 04-07-2013 at 02:10 AM.

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