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    NNI D/C Breaks Lamp Floor

    Don't know if anyone has had this problem before but my group managed to get unlucky with it during a run. We just hit a Lamp Code floor and right as we hit it one of our members started to disconnect.

    We went and hit the lamp when he was gone and it wouldn't let us go up. There really needs to be a fix that if someone disconnects they don't count as one of the people that needs to hit the lamp. It was basically a waste of a good 5 minutes before the guy could connect again and ruined the run completely.
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    That's just asking for potential abuse. One person finds the lamp -> everyone else logs out and comes back.

    Sometimes d/cs will ruin your day, kinda unavoidable fact of MMOs.
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    That's actually an extremely stupid reason. To log out and log back in takes longer than just hitting the code lamp. This is a broken aspect of the game not one that can be abused.
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    That's actually an extremely stupid reason. To log out and log back in takes longer than just hitting the code lamp.
    No, not always.

    Again, there are plenty of instances in both this game and many other MMOs where one person d/cing can screw you; that does not make it a "broken" aspect of the game, that's just tough luck.
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    When someone DCs they should not count any more as a player who needs to hit the lamp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    No, not always.

    Again, there are plenty of instances in both this game and many other MMOs where one person d/cing can screw you; that does not make it a "broken" aspect of the game, that's just tough luck.
    Basically you are saying that just because other games have broken content that can screw you over, they shouldn't fix the broken content in here. Seems legit. A member of the party should not be counted as if he is in the area if he is not online, the same way it works for other battle content.

    If someone D/Cs in an Odin run and your left with 5/6, it doesn't count you as 6/6. The same thing should happen in NNI. This is glitched, broken content.
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    Last edited by Triffle; 03-19-2013 at 02:35 PM.

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    Because everyone is the same therefore you should not try to be better? That's the recipe for failure of making a product. If a feature that occurs because of some random chance is prevent people from playing the game then you probably should try to fix it. If it can't be fixed then it's better to do some work-around rather than telling people "Tough luck buddy".

    Maybe they should make it so that you will lose all battles if one or more members of your party gets connection lost. I mean they should be consistent if NNI is like that right? Then just throw the 'Tough luck' comment when people ask about it.
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    If someone D/Cs in an Odin run and your left with 5/6, it doesn't count you as 6/6. The same thing should happen in NNI. This is glitched, broken content.
    You don't understand what the definition of a glitch is, do you?

    If a feature that occurs because of some random chance is prevent people from playing the game then you probably should try to fix it. If it can't be fixed then it's better to do some work-around rather than telling people "Tough luck buddy".
    Again, there is no "workaround" that cannot be potentially abused, aside from the game just taking pity on you and giving you the floor for free after like 5 minutes or so. That is why nothing will be done about this.

    Make it so that people who aren't logged on don't need to hit lamp, and you will have people logging out on purpose to be able to "activate" their lamp, which is something I'm sure SE wants to avoid. It's the same reason why it takes 30 seconds of resting time or 60 seconds of red-dot time in order to logout outside your MH, they don't want people abusing the system and easily escaping a potentially deadly situation.

    If you're gonna complain about how awful lamp floors in Nyzul are, go right ahead, but there is nothing "broken" about code lamps, they function exactly as intended; and again, a run potentially being ruined by one d/c is just how a MMO can work. Unless it's the actual game servers screwing up your connection, go complain to your ISPs, not to SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Again, there is no "workaround" that cannot be potentially abused, aside from the game just taking pity on you and giving you the floor for free after like 5 minutes or so. That is why nothing will be done about this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    When someone DCs they should not count any more as a player who needs to hit the lamp.
    This has no real flaw, it takes way to long to log back in for it to be an acceptable idea for people to simply DC themselves in order to not count for the lamps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    You don't understand what the definition of a glitch is, do you?



    Again, there is no "workaround" that cannot be potentially abused, aside from the game just taking pity on you and giving you the floor for free after like 5 minutes or so. That is why nothing will be done about this.

    Make it so that people who aren't logged on don't need to hit lamp, and you will have people logging out on purpose to be able to "activate" their lamp, which is something I'm sure SE wants to avoid. It's the same reason why it takes 30 seconds of resting time or 60 seconds of red-dot time in order to logout outside your MH, they don't want people abusing the system and easily escaping a potentially deadly situation.

    If you're gonna complain about how awful lamp floors in Nyzul are, go right ahead, but there is nothing "broken" about code lamps, they function exactly as intended; and again, a run potentially being ruined by one d/c is just how a MMO can work. Unless it's the actual game servers screwing up your connection, go complain to your ISPs, not to SE.
    IT CANNOT BE ABUSED. IT TAKES TOO LONG FOR EVERYONE TO LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IT. THIS MAKES IT NOT VIABLE TO ABUSE AND IT IS ONLY A HINDRANCE TO PEOPLE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND BETTER WITH THE CAPS LOCK? I don't know how many more times I can explain it. I'm fairly sure you're trolling, but you might genuinely be an idiot. If so I'm sorry for your loss of cognitive function and please try to restrain yourself from ever posting again.
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    Last edited by Triffle; 03-24-2013 at 01:48 AM.

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