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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    There aren't enough US PS2 users to justify the cost of pressing the discs, boxes, and shipping them over here. They probably couldn't even fil a single shipping pallet with the number of copies they'd sell.

    The PC you're writing this post on can most likely play the game, so why not just do it? connect your PC to your TV and plug in a controller if you want to sit on the couch.
    In before someone says "I'm not typing this on a PC, I'm typing it on a $500 smartphone!!" /rolleyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfchakan View Post
    In before someone says "I'm not typing this on a PC, I'm typing it on a $500 smartphone!!" /rolleyes
    Eh, I suppose that would be a fair statement. But I personally wouldn't post to the forum from a phone, it's too cumbersome.

    Still, I edited my post to qualify the statement more.
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    Could always be a Wii or PS3 browser too.
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    lol you guys.. PS2 users aren't hurting anything. if they drop PS2 support the PC client won't suddenly be amazing unless they redo the entire thing from the ground up.

    The game itself is built around PS2 architecture and then ported over to PC. We are always going to have PS2 limitations.

    dealwithit.gif


    and for the millionth time
    GE- In North America Seekers of Adoulin will not be available for the PlayStation 2. Can you tell us what lead to this decision? It seems a bit odd to increase HDD capacity for the game on the console then only release the expansion in one territory. Why not release the expansion digitally?

    SE (Answered by Square Enix, Inc.)- In evaluating the North American release of the expansion across all platforms, we needed to consider multiple factors, including the number of players exclusively on the system, and the costs associated with publishing or developing a stand-alone download. Regrettably, these two factors greatly determined our final decision to support the PC and Xbox platforms exclusively. However, we remain committed to supporting FINAL FANTASY XI on the PlayStation 2 platform for the foreseeable future.
    There is no money for SE in publishing the game on PS2 for NA. And idk if you noticed- that's not really something they can afford right now after laying off a decent chunk of people.
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    I've been using every NA client of FFXI out there (PS2, Windows, Xbox360) with a Japanese account since 2004... What make people think you cannot log a NA account on a Japanese FFXI client (which I already did and it worked perfectly) ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliveira View Post
    What make people think you cannot log a NA account on a Japanese FFXI client (which I already did and it worked perfectly) ?
    In Japan, the Ultimate Collection is PC only. NA PS2 players would not only have to get a JP Adoulin disc, but also find old JP FFXI install media to go with it (aside from a JP PS2+HDD to begin with).
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    Nothing in the above post is intended to disparage Square Enix or FINAL FANTASY XI, or to criticize Square Enix staff; such behavior would be a violation of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. Any such violations of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement should be reported to Square Enix immediately, by using the "Report Post" icon in the bottom-left of forum posts.

    No Moogles were harmed in the making in this post. Stars save the Sibyl!

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    this ps2 stuff again? you guys. the NA ps2 people wanted it to go. you did a vote on it and now you trying to get it back? just let the ps2 thing die already. check this out... if you guys trying to buy FF on ps2 it lot harder now. ebay amazon etc sells it with the hhd for $80+, playstation 2 network adapter $15+, and a ps2 $40+ =$135 it over priced. you do much better just buying a cheap $100 pc or less and it will still run faster then the ps2.

    before someone say "cant play on the tv & controller". well you can so stop making excuses
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyheen View Post
    this ps2 stuff again? you guys. the NA ps2 people wanted it to go. you did a vote on it and now you trying to get it back? just let the ps2 thing die already. check this out... if you guys trying to buy FF on ps2 it lot harder now. ebay amazon etc sells it with the hhd for $80+, playstation 2 network adapter $15+, and a ps2 $40+ =$135 it over priced. you do much better just buying a cheap $100 pc or less and it will still run faster then the ps2.

    before someone say "cant play on the tv & controller". well you can so stop making excuses
    of course they can play on a TV with a controller, many video cards even cheap ones come with HDMI out on them and there are a lot of really good game controllers for the PC as well, many of which have the exact look and feel of a PS/PS22 Dual Shock/Dual Shock 2 and function just like them as well
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    Try to have fun or it isn't worth playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusionx View Post
    lol you guys.. PS2 users aren't hurting anything. if they drop PS2 support the PC client won't suddenly be amazing unless they redo the entire thing from the ground up.

    The game itself is built around PS2 architecture and then ported over to PC. We are always going to have PS2 limitations.

    dealwithit.gif


    and for the millionth time


    There is no money for SE in publishing the game on PS2 for NA. And idk if you noticed- that's not really something they can afford right now after laying off a decent chunk of people.
    Actually that's the whole idea here. If enough PS2 players are willing to put in the money it would take to make enough copies of the game for them, it proves there's money in it and SE, taking the money upfront, has the profits before it sinks money into the costs.

    EDIT: Oh and I already quoted that GE interview earlier in the thread. GJ.
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    Last edited by Volkai; 04-05-2013 at 09:21 PM.
    "Don't take life too seriously, you can't get out of it alive."

    Adoulin is installed but still not lighting up on your title screen? Here's what to do:
    Go to https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/login?cont=account and log in, then Select Service >>> PlayOnline / FINAL FANTASY XI >>> Add a service account (blue button) >>> input expansion software registration code.

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    lol you guys.. PS2 users aren't hurting anything. if they drop PS2 support the PC client won't suddenly be amazing unless they redo the entire thing from the ground up.
    They're really not helping anything either. And while I agree that there wouldn't be a magical overnight change for the game upon dropping the PS2, it would open the doors to certain kinds of adjustments that might not otherwise be considered.

    The game itself is built around PS2 architecture and then ported over to PC. We are always going to have PS2 limitations.
    Not really.

    The game engine is already capable of using higher resolution textures than are normally used in the game. Textures for certain specific things in the game have already been upgraded on PC only.

    The two main limitations of the PS2 are hard disk partition space and memory. These two limits essentially do not exist on the PC, since even the worst PCs sold today have more memory than a PS2 and more hard disk space. If the PS2 version uses too much memory, it freezes. If the PC client uses too much memory... windows just allocates more, or pushes something to the virtual memory swap file.

    There are already many technical changes and token upgrades that only apply to the PC and in some cases the xbox versions of the game. Cutting the PS2 just makes that easier.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 04-05-2013 at 09:45 AM.

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