NA PS2 - One Last Shot

[Kaisha]

hard disk space is a limitation. they can't increase the size of the partition infinitely.

edit sorry bout double post.

The realistic outlook is that XI will be dead by the time it hits 19gb of space. Even then, there's still more room they can partition away.

Unless they decide to completely overhaul XI for some unfathomable reason in the future, they're not hitting that 19gb cap in another decade at the rate the game gets new content.

[Alhanelem]

This isn't about something I need. As I've posted numerous times in numerous places I largely moved to PC around the time if the WotG release, and added Xbox to the platforms I play on not quite a year ago.

If you don't need it, you have no reason to be advocating for it. It doesn't help you in any way,

2} Release of this product through a backer-funded method is inherently profitable

It's not profitable enough. Even if those 38 people were willing to pay $100, I still don't think they would do it. And if it got to that point, you could just spend that money on a used xbox or PC that would run the game better instead.

"Shut up and take my money" just doesn't work with SE. I think we can all tell that from their payment system

It's simple: they want people to upgrade, and those people should upgrade. This game is going to completely outlast the PS2- Why stick to it to the bitter end when you can make a small investment on a newer piece of hardware that is certainly more useful than just for FFXI (whereas there are so many PS2s out there that don't even read discs anymore that FFXI is all they're good for)

The PS2 was a great system, and it had a great run. But it's time to move on.

[Sfchakan]

Would probably need to sell out a 5,000 copy run to break even on very bare bones production. Talking just the product manufacturing and shipping itself, not the bug testing for non-Japanese consoles. That is a number that's probably not attainable at this point.

[Volkai]

If you don't need it, you have no reason to be advocating for it.

And I suppose you think straight people have no business advocating for marriage equality, men have no business advocating women's rights, and so on?

I'm disappointed with you, Alhanalem. I thought you had more sense than this.

[Volkai]

Would probably need to sell out a 5,000 copy run to break even on very bare bones production. Talking just the product manufacturing and shipping itself, not the bug testing for non-Japanese consoles. That is a number that's probably not attainable at this point.

Not every copy would have to sell for the money raised to match that amount, but I agree with you that it's unlikely the required money would be raised.

Still, I think the opportunity to raise this money should be given.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Any limitations due to hard drive size would necessarily affect the Xbox 360 before the PS2. The first HDDs that shipped with Xbox 360's were half the size of the HDD used by the PS2, and the recent redesign of the Xbox 360 means that it is now generally impossible to find a replacement proprietary HDD for older 360 models.

[Alhanelem]

And I suppose you think straight people have no business advocating for marriage equality, men have no business advocating women's rights, and so on?

I'm disappointed with you, Alhanalem. I thought you had more sense than this.

There is a massive, collosal difference between begging for a ps2 SoA disk and fighting for civil rights. Don't you dare try to go there. I'm thoroughly disgusted that you would make wild assumptions about my views on things outside of this game based on a game issue.

[Sfchakan]

Gotta back Alhanelem up on that one, that was going a bit far.

[Kaisha]

Any limitations due to hard drive size would necessarily affect the Xbox 360 before the PS2. The first HDDs that shipped with Xbox 360's were half the size of the HDD used by the PS2, and the recent redesign of the Xbox 360 means that it is now generally impossible to find a replacement proprietary HDD for older 360 models.

The propriety drives in older 360s were so expensive that it'd basically be cheaper to just buy a 360 Slim instead.

Not every copy would have to sell for the money raised to match that amount, but I agree with you that it's unlikely the required money would be raised.

Still, I think the opportunity to raise this money should be given.

Or they can just give the expansion data as part of an FFXI update so every PS2 user has the data regardless of purchasing it. It'd be the only way SE would ever consider SoA in NA anyhow, since I doubt SCEA will even let them release a new disc-pressed PS2 game.

[Volkai]

There is a massive, collosal difference between begging for a ps2 SoA disk and fighting for civil rights. Don't you dare try to go there. I'm thoroughly disgusted that you would make wild assumptions about my views on things outside of this game based on a game issue.

You are right that there is a collosal difference between advocating for a possible NA PS2 SoA release and fighting for civil rights, but your statement made no such distinction. It was quite sweeping:

If you don't need it, you have no reason to be advocating for it. It doesn't help you in any way,

I don't actually assume anything about your views on things outside of FFXI, particularly not based on a game issue. But your statement did not constrain its context to FFXI, and so I stated suppositions (not ones I belive to be true) to point out the full impact of what you've said.

I don't need to be a PS2-only player to advocate for an NA PS2 SoA release, please stop trying to say otherwise.

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What is it with today and people making sweeping generalized statements and then getting offended when I take them at their word instead of assuming unstated contextual qualifications to that statement?

Say what you mean.