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    Please...every player who paid until now will continue to pay even without the expansion, and the game is really too old to attract a significant "new playerbase".
    So basically, Adoulin marketing campaign wouldn't have changed anything and would have been wasted money.

    As for "the same fate could befall to FF XIV", I can only hope it will run for ELEVEN years before having bland expansion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfchakan View Post
    From the rest of us to you: give it up and move on. You holdouts are holding the rest of the game back.



    You are ruining MY immersion!
    You are ruining your own immersion, nobody else can do that for you.

    Also, I no longer play PS2, I switched to PC in 2008 and then PC+360 in 2012. This isn't for me.

    Now, if you're done putting your foot in your mouth, does anyone have any /relevant/ ideas about this proposal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkai View Post
    Now, if you're done putting your foot in your mouth, does anyone have any /relevant/ ideas about this proposal?
    Yes, anyone willing to donate a significant enough sum of money should use that money to switch to a more modern platform.

    That's why this proposal is ridiculous. Defend the PS2 all you want, it's playerbase is holding the game back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sfchakan View Post
    Yes, anyone willing to donate a significant enough sum of money should use that money to switch to a more modern platform.

    That's why this proposal is ridiculous. Defend the PS2 all you want, it's playerbase is holding the game back.
    It really depends on the community. The reason SE decided to keep the ps2 version for Japan was because ps2 is much bigger in japan than the xbox 360 and there are a couple of other games that use the hard drive. In the US this is the only game that uses a hard drive, and it apparently isn't that big... It is kind of disappointing (especially because you can't log into the Japanese version with an NA account) but there is nothing that we can do except hope it will eventually become a psn if it ever does...
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    Did they ever give a reason why they wanted to stop making US ps2 versions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirito_Wind View Post
    Did they ever give a reason why they wanted to stop making US ps2 versions?
    A quick forum search (using terms "Adoulin" and "PS2") brought up nothing, but after a bit of digging around I was able to find a relevant quote from GameEscape's Vana'Fest 2012 Interview:
    GE- In North America Seekers of Adoulin will not be available for the PlayStation 2. Can you tell us what lead to this decision? It seems a bit odd to increase HDD capacity for the game on the console then only release the expansion in one territory. Why not release the expansion digitally?

    SE (Answered by Square Enix, Inc.)- In evaluating the North American release of the expansion across all platforms, we needed to consider multiple factors, including the number of players exclusively on the system, and the costs associated with publishing or developing a stand-alone download. Regrettably, these two factors greatly determined our final decision to support the PC and Xbox platforms exclusively. However, we remain committed to supporting FINAL FANTASY XI on the PlayStation 2 platform for the foreseeable future.
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    Here you go. This is why SoA is not on NA PS2. This is why the only chance an NA PS2 SoA release has is to prove that the number of players 'exclusively' on the system are willing to make an expenditure greater than the costs associated with publishing or developing a stand-alone download.
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    Last edited by Volkai; 04-03-2013 at 07:02 AM.
    "Don't take life too seriously, you can't get out of it alive."

    Adoulin is installed but still not lighting up on your title screen? Here's what to do:
    Go to https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/login?cont=account and log in, then Select Service >>> PlayOnline / FINAL FANTASY XI >>> Add a service account (blue button) >>> input expansion software registration code.

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    I've been playing FFXI for 8 years and even met my irl wife in the Kuftal Tunnel. I've been running my game this whole time on the PS2. I hate it that they came out with a new expansion that I can now not play with my wife! (she's a PC user). I don't have the money to invest in an X-box 360 or another computer just to play the new expansion! Frankly this is ruining the whole experience for me and my wife. I cannot play as the two new jobs, and I cannot go to the new continent. I cannot express how much I want them to come out with it in NA for the PS2 users. Why can they have it in Japan but not here?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinb View Post
    I've been playing FFXI for 8 years and even met my irl wife in the Kuftal Tunnel. I've been running my game this whole time on the PS2. I hate it that they came out with a new expansion that I can now not play with my wife! (she's a PC user). I don't have the money to invest in an X-box 360 or another computer just to play the new expansion! Frankly this is ruining the whole experience for me and my wife. I cannot play as the two new jobs, and I cannot go to the new continent. I cannot express how much I want them to come out with it in NA for the PS2 users. Why can they have it in Japan but not here?!?
    My woman and I started on PS2 as well, but guess what? By the time Treasures came out, we wizened up and moved to PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinb View Post
    I've been playing FFXI for 8 years and even met my irl wife in the Kuftal Tunnel. I've been running my game this whole time on the PS2. I hate it that they came out with a new expansion that I can now not play with my wife! (she's a PC user). I don't have the money to invest in an X-box 360 or another computer just to play the new expansion! Frankly this is ruining the whole experience for me and my wife. I cannot play as the two new jobs, and I cannot go to the new continent. I cannot express how much I want them to come out with it in NA for the PS2 users. Why can they have it in Japan but not here?!?
    That's what this thread is about. The reasoning so far is that not enough people would buy it to justify the cost a manufacturing and distribution - and with a fixed-price model set at the same price as other platforms have paid, it's probably true. The way around that is this backer-funded model, where we know how much must be invested for SE to act, and the player base either invests enough to make it worth making for SE... or doesn't.
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    "Don't take life too seriously, you can't get out of it alive."

    Adoulin is installed but still not lighting up on your title screen? Here's what to do:
    Go to https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/login?cont=account and log in, then Select Service >>> PlayOnline / FINAL FANTASY XI >>> Add a service account (blue button) >>> input expansion software registration code.

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    I'm in slight agreement with Bahamut , it would be nice if they could improve the graphics quality somewhat. I'm not asking for a FFXIV overhaul, but just a general increase in the quality we have at the moment.

    As for the topic at hand I can see why people would like a ps2 disc of the expansion but if they didn't bother to do one for PC users PS2 really stands no chance . I have all my FFXI physical copies together and it makes me a little sad I have no SOA case to go with it . But such is life - we jut have to grin and bare it and hope they have something up their sleeves
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