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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrous24 View Post
    I highly doubt a server farm like theirs has no redundant power supply in case of power outages... otherwise a thunderstorm could kill all the data.
    Agreed, the HQ of my company has 2 generators on site, 1 near the building and another one on campus several buildings away. The first one is a diesel one that turns on pretty quickly to be able to catch the servers before they run around of power on battery backup. The second affects some of our other buildings.

    Still, we could keep our servers running through a blackout(and have, a few years ago we had constant rolling blackouts, and had to rely on it quite a bit). While I'm sure SE has a system like that, I imagine staying up on fuel based generators would be pretty expensive, as iirc, Japan's fuel costs are almost double ours. (This site shows it at $5.19/gal last year)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    http://www.tokyoarchitecture.info/Bu...unka-Quint.php

    click the "Map This" link and poke around their neighborhood a bit, and maybe you'll understand why they had to conserve power, regardless if they were dealing with blackouts or not....
    But power consumption is power consumption. Whether they are located within blocks of a hospital or 20 miles away they will still be drawing the same power. So if Toyota, Honda & Sony are all up & running their is no reason SE will not be. They will be drawing no where near the power these companies are and need to resume their business again before a total fail to both games.
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    The last I checked, SE's data center wasn't in a blackout zone (And this web server is part of it).

    An apology statement from TEPCO has no bearing on when or if the servers will be coming back. They are working to bring some disabled plants back online which according to the information I've read will bring supply close to or above average demand (but not peak demand).

    Get CocaCola to unplug it's vending machines that each drain the power of a small house, and they can turn the servers back on.

    While those factories will probably be operating at limited capacity (for more reasons than one), it's pretty essential for them to be operating in the wake of the disaster destroying so much stuff. That said, I'm pretty sure a car part manufacturing plant's power demands are higher than SE's.

    Service might not be back this week, but I don't think it will be the months that some people are suggesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chatokun View Post
    Agreed, the HQ of my company has 2 generators on site, 1 near the building and another one on campus several buildings away. The first one is a diesel one that turns on pretty quickly to be able to catch the servers before they run around of power on battery backup. The second affects some of our other buildings.

    Still, we could keep our servers running through a blackout(and have, a few years ago we had constant rolling blackouts, and had to rely on it quite a bit). While I'm sure SE has a system like that, I imagine staying up on fuel based generators would be pretty expensive, as iirc, Japan's fuel costs are almost double ours. (This site shows it at $5.19/gal last year)
    There have been issues with fuel supply. At one point, they had to ration it to the equivalent of roughly 5 gallons, and stations were still running out. Could have also been something they considered happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightDagger View Post
    But power consumption is power consumption. Whether they are located within blocks of a hospital or 20 miles away they will still be drawing the same power. So if Toyota, Honda & Sony are all up & running their is no reason SE will not be. They will be drawing no where near the power these companies are and need to resume their business again before a total fail to both games.
    Actually it does make a difference where to power is used. Other wise there would be no diverting. Diverting from where if its all in one grid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightDagger View Post
    i would take unstable power over nothing. Heck let us play for 6 hours a day say 4-10pm Est. & we would be fine with it.
    Don't you mean 4-10pm jst? lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The last I checked, SE's data center wasn't in a blackout zone (And this web server is part of it).

    An apology statement from TEPCO has no bearing on when or if the servers will be coming back. They are working to bring some disabled plants back online which according to the information I've read will bring supply close to or above average demand (but not peak demand).

    Get CocaCola to unplug it's vending machines that each drain the power of a small house, and they can turn the servers back on.

    While those factories will probably be operating at limited capacity (for more reasons than one), it's pretty essential for them to be operating in the wake of the disaster destroying so much stuff. That said, I'm pretty sure a car part manufacturing plant's power demands are higher than SE's.

    Service might not be back this week, but I don't think it will be the months that some people are suggesting.
    Those plants start coming on Tuesday if I recall right.. and they will be pulling in 150MW more power to the grid as well. And as for the vending machines...I don't like the thought of keeping them running either, but... at least they are providing food/drink vs. a form of entertainment. Don't think that justifies the extra drain, but still the point is we are talking about a game vs. life sustaining facilities like hospitals nearby and police stations for protection and emergency services though. When you have a finite resource, need to apply it towards what is likely to provide the most benefit.

    Edit: I'd also rather see some of those plants come back online so they can contribute to the nations GDP. Their economy is gonna be in the crapper after this. Ibaraki prefect isn't going to be able to export crap for a long time--Spinach wtih upwards of 20x the acceptible limit. Would you want to eat it?
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    We will see 2morrow whats going on w/ the servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    Don't you mean 4-10pm jst? lol.
    lol no I meant est. (my time zone) but yeah we all know it would be Jst. >< man 14 hours difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by annewandering View Post
    Actually it does make a difference where to power is used. Other wise there would be no diverting. Diverting from where if its all in one grid?
    Well as for SE all their surrounding grid is from the same power source so it makes no difference really.

    The diverting is coming from other power sources that are running no problem & providing full power to completely different areas.

    They are getting an extra 150MW from an external power source. That is 4 times as much power as they are running on currently. With that much extra power there should be no reason for any blackouts or companies that are able to operate to do so.
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