Congratulations on your level??

[Elrim]

Because no one would play on it. Not nearly enough people who want to play the game the old way are around or else you wouldn't even have to make posts like these -- BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE ENOUGH OF EACH OTHER TO DO THINGS THE OLD WAY.

People aren't leveling quickly because they are forced to, people aren't doing missions at level 99 because they have no choice -- if there were people who actually wanted to do things the "hard" way outside of an overly vocal minority there would be no problem. If you want to form an old school part in ToAU zones or in an obscure old school camp, shout the level range and find someone with a job of appropriate level to sync to -- it is as easy as that.

if you can't find people for that, then dare I say you might be a bigger minority than you believe -- and it is not in SE's best interest to cater large amounts of time, energy, and money towards appeasing gross minorities.



This.

I've never been "hardcore" but I do like number crunching and the only way to be a successful, happy number-cruncher is to grind gear. FFXI has always been about end game and the hyper elitist part of the community that demands everything cater to them and keep them entertained -- frankly, every MMO has that set of players and they are perfectly correct in their demands because there needs to be something left to do to keep people playing.

Like it or not, but the evolution of FFXI over the last 10 years has followed that train, and the reason the game is still SE's biggest money maker is because it has worked. People may claim to hate Abyssea and the level 99 increase, but the fact they are still playing is proof that they enjoy it more than they'd like to let on.

The people who want this kind of server aren't playing just as I haven't been playing for a long time. You don't see the demand because the people that are looking for it quit when they find out it isn't there. Only after it is offered do we see these people flock back to these servers as they have in Uthgard and EQ progression servers. I'm not sure how difficult it is to throw a server out there with patch 1.0 but I doubt it is more difficult than trying to make a classic feel server using more updated rulesets. I know this won't get player traction on the forums because people still playing enjoy the game as it is, but it is the best way for this kind of thing to get visibility with the devs. From past experience I'm sure it would be popular enough to thrive as any other server does, but I don't expect everyone to jump ship and switch servers.

[Luvbunny]

I dont mind doing Reives, but running around following people or waiting around is not my idea of fun. A bit waste of my time. Since in Bahamut, most roots are cleared up rather fast leaving stragglers or solo explorers with not much to do but run around again on your marked maps to find the next roots. Wasp nest are avoided cuz they give you almost nothing. Too bad you are not having fun in ToAU or Abyssea or any contents coming out after that. I did, it's great to just log in and play with 0-2 people without having to resort to jobs xyz or too many restriction.

In case you didn't notice, most of SoA is safely locked in its tiered iron clad garden and right now, roots and wasp nest are pretty much the most popular option to grind your bayld. Granted all jobs can participate - well, pretty much tank is somewhat needed, and a sleeper. This is similar to how campaign was in the beginning, free for all whackaton for fun And it is fun. Until you realize it's over very soon and an alliance mowed the rest of em fast - leaving you with not much to do.

And I cant really explore safely as summoner - even if most mobs are dead in 3-4 rage BP. Just doing one BP rage is enough to send the mob attacking me....

[Candi]

... it's great to just log in and play with 0-2 people without having to resort to jobs xyz or too many restriction.

This was needed 10 years ago.

[Jaall]

I dont mind doing Reives, but running around following people or waiting around is not my idea of fun. A bit waste of my time. Since in Bahamut, most roots are cleared up rather fast leaving stragglers or solo explorers with not much to do but run around again on your marked maps to find the next roots. Wasp nest are avoided cuz they give you almost nothing. Too bad you are not having fun in ToAU or Abyssea or any contents coming out after that. I did, it's great to just log in and play with 0-2 people without having to resort to jobs xyz or too many restriction.

In case you didn't notice, most of SoA is safely locked in its tiered iron clad garden and right now, roots and wasp nest are pretty much the most popular option to grind your bayld. Granted all jobs can participate - well, pretty much tank is somewhat needed, and a sleeper. This is similar to how campaign was in the beginning, free for all whackaton for fun And it is fun. Until you realize it's over very soon and an alliance mowed the rest of em fast - leaving you with not much to do.

And I cant really explore safely as summoner - even if most mobs are dead in 3-4 rage BP. Just doing one BP rage is enough to send the mob attacking me....

Um... Can't believe I really need to say this but, there's more than one zone, and I guarantee that 3 other zones will be effectively empty and still hold reives. If you're bored by the ease of reives go do one in the basalt fields, every mob in them is very tough meaning it'll challenge you even further. Just stop complaining already and just go play it, you gave up way too easy and are now just playing ignorant to everything because you've decided you don't like it.

And Caketime I really do agree with you for the most part, I'm not even sure what kinda side you're fighting for, like for or against nostalgia? But yea there have been good and bad sides to both times and expansions have had hit/miss aspects, like Einherjar was virtually impossible for years after it was released and hardly anybody actually did it a year after it was made easier because it just wasn't all that great. Abyssea to me was just a way to get my char to 99 and get the gear needed to move onto the harder content. Haven't actually been inside Abyssea for anything other than a few merits in the past 6 months.

[Luvbunny]

Um... Can't believe I really need to say this but, there's more than one zone, and I guarantee that 3 other zones will be effectively empty and still hold reives. If you're bored by the ease of reives go do one in the basalt fields, every mob in them is very tough meaning it'll challenge you even further. Just stop complaining already and just go play it, you gave up way too easy and are now just playing ignorant to everything because you've decided you don't like it.

You need to chill lol. There are at least two zones for reive with everyone clustered in Cezhak and not bother to stop by at Yahza. I am not flat out hating SoA but it's clearly a beta content, which is somewhat expected from SE. That does not stop me to try and see what works, and how to maximize the enjoyment, even if it is not much. I don't give up that easily but the broken enmity and the atrocious hate issue with pet jobs at least rendering two of my favorite jobs somewhat broken for doing exploration. That does not mean it's the end of the road. Good thing abyssea pretty much let you sample all 22 jobs in a flash to find other jobs that could work for exploring SE. So far I am having fun as Rdm/Blue. Definitely will try other jobs combo to see which one suits me the best for now while SE is taking their sweet ass time fixing the update. At least they admitted there is something wrong.

[Caketime]

And Caketime I really do agree with you for the most part, I'm not even sure what kinda side you're fighting for, like for or against nostalgia? But yea there have been good and bad sides to both times and expansions have had hit/miss aspects, like Einherjar was virtually impossible for years after it was released and hardly anybody actually did it a year after it was made easier because it just wasn't all that great. Abyssea to me was just a way to get my char to 99 and get the gear needed to move onto the harder content. Haven't actually been inside Abyssea for anything other than a few merits in the past 6 months.

I'm for fun, not nostalgia. Einherjar was distinctly not fun, requiring half of my old LS to show up drunk just to make it entertaining. Sometimes all of us showed up drunk, then things got real interesting. For the most part a lot of content has felt like a chore to me, I did what I felt like doing for my reward pieces, and what kept me going was my friends. Every time someone wears a subligar and takes a seat on a fresh corpse, or when the resident Galka strips and chases after the Tarus for "lap time", it makes me want to keep doing things with these weird awesome people even if the activity itself is kinda boring.

Thus far Adoulin is very entertaining, it filled my entire afternoon with exploration, meeting up with old friends and making new ones. The exploration almost feels nostalgic, but only because it's been so long since I've had the chance to run around in fresh new zones and there's no need for wiki (for the most part) which is just awesome.

[Jaall]

I am chilled lol, but you're incredibly annoying with all your undignified hate for SoA. I do agree on some of your points but most are just whining about it when really it's only your own fault. In every zone there are reives and they get harder the further out you go, like I said, in the basalt fields they're all VT mobs. If you don't like standing around waiting for a reive and you don't like bashing roots or they "die too quick" go make an alliance and head out to the basalt fields to hit rocks there. There are at least 5x more reives in that zone because of how huge it is and it's not all corridors. Your arguments were valid before everyone started properly playing it but while you've been sat here not exploring and arguing that it's s**t people have actually been playing it and realising it's a lot more than just waiting around for a reive to start, making you ignorant for not accepting that and still arguing your case.

[Luvbunny]

If you don't like standing around waiting for a reive and you don't like bashing roots or they "die too quick" go make an alliance and head out to the basalt fields to hit rocks there. There are at least 5x more reives in that zone because of how huge it is and it's not all corridors. Your arguments were valid before everyone started properly playing it but while you've been sat here not exploring and arguing that it's s**t people have actually been playing it and realising it's a lot more than just waiting around for a reive to start, making you ignorant for not accepting that and still arguing your case.

Trust me, I always shout with location where the reive is, because everyone seems to love sitting and waiting hoping it will magically appear in 15 mnts. I marked all the location so I know where to go next, it baffles me that a lot of people just stand outside the reive and waiting for others to go kamikaze and get whacked first by a group of mobs before they come and join, going straight for the roots while the first timer getting pecked by purple butterfly - which then come after the other roots whackers soon after and you start seeing dead bodies everywhere. It's good when you have a PLD + Whm duo - which control the mobs, the rest of the melee are playing on zombie zerg mode, they can't tank by themselves, they can't raise, and they can't heal the others. So they just whack the roots till they get pecked to death. And now that they have adjusted the amount of bayld you can receive using magic, expect tons of RDMs to join the fray. You are getting reduced bayld if you just melee DD - LMAO!! Pld and Rdm to the front line with all those melee Whms

[Jaall]

If you're happy with it stop complaining in every post you make with exactly the same points. If you don't like people standing around then make an ALLIANCE, didn't say shout pos because people wont always listen and are prob afk waiting not actually standing there the whole time. People being dumb in their own right is not a cause to call the whole expansion a fail and if you don't like it you do have other zones to go to which are empty, which gives you no real argument for the whole expansion being a fail. I'm not sure anymore what you expect or what you want, you're always complaining some way or another but never actually have a valid point except for what you deem fun/boring, and then slightly hint that you actually enjoy SoA... Attention seeking maybe? I literally have no idea.

[Luvbunny]

I'm not sure anymore what you expect or what you want, you're always complaining some way or another but never actually have a valid point except for what you deem fun/boring, and then slightly hint that you actually enjoy SoA... Attention seeking maybe? I literally have no idea.

So.... are you happy with the recent changes? Does not seem like everyone is thrilled with it - including you. Now you know what it feels like when you no longer able to enjoy the game with the jobs that you love. At least I can still go and play as Rdm or BLu, since the recent changes would favor those combo jobs. Just saying, stop being all so positive - start being critical if you want some changes to be made - maybe not going nerd rage and canceled your subscription hah hah hah.