Congratulations on your level??

[Elphy]

Mostly I wasn't, but in my eyes you did imply a lot by saying you wouldn't comment. I could have read too far into it though and would apologize if that's the case.

I have had back and forths with Karby and some exp with them in-game. With you, I have only seen posts here and in xiv but have never really had extensive back and forths with you, just random responces here and there, hence the lack of comment

reworded it as I can see how it could be taken

[Karbuncle]

I've never been "hardcore" but I do like number crunching and the only way to be a successful, happy number-cruncher is to grind gear. FFXI has always been about end game and the hyper elitist part of the community that demands everything cater to them and keep them entertained -- frankly, every MMO has that set of players and they are perfectly correct in their demands because there needs to be something left to do to keep people playing.

Like it or not, but the evolution of FFXI over the last 10 years has followed that train, and the reason the game is still SE's biggest money maker is because it has worked. People may claim to hate Abyssea and the level 99 increase, but the fact they are still playing is proof that they enjoy it more than they'd like to let on.

And this is how i feel. I don't know intricaceis of dDex, or fSTR, I don't know the exact meanings behind them, But i know how they effect me, and i know how to gear in a way to cater to them. I may not know all the formulas by heart, But I still take the time to learn them, and Its always been about the gear.

Back when i was playing, during NA BETA mind you, I loved the game. I collected crystals even though i had no clue what they did, and when Beta was over, I played my brothers character for a bit... Got his RDM to level 30, Wore Centurion Scale armor, and Meleed with my sword. We camped Bune together for an Enhancing sword for him.

When i was level 50, I was in Gustav, and Bune spawned, a NIN and a RDM were doing it, I was on THF, and i offered TH2, they accepted. So i meleed and Put TH2 on it, now i couldn't hit it, let alone fight it... But I enjoyed helping. No, Unfortunately both of them died at some point, but since i was the last one to hit Bune never went unclaimed, so it went around Murdering the other 12 people waiting to claim it because they tried to cure-bomb the NIN to steal hate... I mean, I had no idea was it was still claimed to me, so i watched it kill the 12 people in there, then I just flee'd to the zone because i knew it would come for me.

In retrospect i laugh my a** off, but all these wonderful memories aren't going to happen again just because im on a Nostalgia server.. they're gone, they're always a part of me, but they're gone. I'm making new ones in Adoulin. I spent the last 2 days forming alliance of make-shift people.

We talked, enjoyed it... Hell, we made a plan, and we kicked butt. everyone followed directions, no one died (Except for a few final stings...) and overall we all bonded and really enjoyed ourselves. I quote one of them

"I love it when a good plan comes together"

We made a strategy to work with what we had.. THF's, NIN's, 2 BLU's, a couple makeshift DD, some not even level 90... But we still won cause we worked together, and i had a blast. Fun is what you make of it... You'll always have memories, but dont long for them, Find new ones, and enjoy the game for what it is.

Please continue!

V This little tidbit is just for Hercule, you guys can read it if you want but its whatev's V

You Karbuncle and Alhanlem with your 3000+ and 4000+ messages on these forums should really stop to post your opinions on everything that poping here, you always repeat the same thing tirelessly, you're always think you're right on everything and argue with other people that don't think like you as if you were at war, personaly I'm just tired of seeing you and I really think for most of the FFXI community you're just a curse who contribued to slowly kill this game and pull it down.

Hi! Google "Pot Calling Kettle Black" for me, I think it would really help us in our future conversations.

You make accusations at me, while i will not deny the legitimacy of some of them... then tell me to stop posting my opinion because of my post count, while all the while fighting for your own opinion... But my opinion is less valid because I have most post count? I'm not sure where you're coming from so maybe i'm not getting the full story, But when you do go google the Pot kettle thing, Google Hypocrite as well, these definitions are really one in the same though.

Now, analhelm is right here, He's mostly pretty docile when it comes to his opinion... I'm not sure why you're even attacking him, maybe its because his post count as well as you really seem to hate big numbers... But when it comes to posting opinions/docile thing, usually so am I, but like any human on this planet, sometimes i feel very strongly about my opinion, and sometimes i also get a little ranty and can result in me making it feel like I'm attacking a person, rather than a point. I admit this, and I know I've been wrong in the past about plenty of things... I've made a lot of mistakes like a lot of people, But I'm going to echo Anlhamlehelm here and ask:

What the heck business is it of yours how many posts other people have? And what right do you have to slander others?

I will however move forth to say, While i don't always think i'm right, you're on the same side of the fence, You're so sure you're right in this subject it boggles you how i can think I'm right. You're literally expressing the exact definition of hypocrisy. I'm sorry you feel this way, but its not my fault, and as I've said a before, I'll post my opinion when i want, and as often as i want, same as you.

PS: I know I'm not perfect when it comes to making points, But I do often edit my posts a lot to make them far less mean/inflammatory because I know its easier to get a point across when you use logical tones... but its difficult sometimes when you deal with people, no offense, like you, who look for hostility wherever they can find it and have some odd lusting hatred of my post count.

Its like hating the popular kids in school because you're not one of them. Its something psychological but i don't know the exact term for it, But i used to suffer from this in Highschool so don't feel bad man, just means we got something in common.

[Prrsha]

You Karbuncle and Alhanlem with your 3000+ and 4000+ messages on these forums should really stop to post your opinions on everything that poping here, you always repeat the same thing tirelessly, you're always think you're right on everything and argue with other people that don't think like you as if you were at war, personaly I'm just tired of seeing you and I really think for most of the FFXI community you're just a curse who contribued to slowly kill this game and pull it down.

I agree with some of their logic at times but I really don't like their tact. Going postal at a new or returning player only hurts the existing player base... unless their intent is to cleanse the game of everyone who has an opinion that differs from their own. In my honest opinion I don't think it is their intention but it is have that effect.

The only thing I do miss is the conversations and laughter you had with complete strangers in an old pt. The book burns and aby burns nowadays mostly lack that making it somewhat hard to get to know other players, form lasting friendships and linkshells. I think that is the only thing good about the old leveling days.

The conversations and interactions are the backbone of what makes a MMORPG great or just a dud. This is the heart of a MMORPG. If I don't desire those, I just play one of many single RPGs out in the market, like the Elder scrolls series.

[Karbuncle]

unless their intent is to cleanse the game of everyone who has an opinion that differs from their own.

Yes, This is it. You've discovered the Secret of operation Karbahelm.

On a serious note I thank you for the understanding when it comes to this, and that you can see what my intentions are... But i made this post already so darnit I'm posting it.

ANYWHO, I make dozens of posts that are intended to directly aidd new players, or players who just don't know everything they need to know and might really help them... Like countless informative posts, and the most recently the Reive thread... and do help them, so much so i occasionally receive kind words in game about it.

I make a rather Mild post and to some people this means I'm likely sitting behind my desk stroking a bald cat i named Spankwrustler plotting my next devious post to make some new player cut himself and quit FFXI because he had the balls to have a different opinion than me, let alone I've mentioned a dozen times opinions are amazing and i openly insist and encourage people give their opinions, even if that means being shot down, or being debated/Discussed.

Now, While i don't have the cat, i do have my dog every so often, but she just sleeps on my pillow over there.

Anyway, I've also mentioned several times i sometimes make rants generally not directed at any individual but more at the idea, since the idea is usually heard and repeated... For instance, this thread has come up about a million times, SO while i don't hate... whatever the name of the OP is... I do tend feel more passionately about my disagree-alness(thats a word now) with this idea than your average topic.

Honestly, it took me a good 10 minutes trying to type this post to sound entirely more joking and sarcastic rather than forcing and provocative, Since thats the point I'm trying to make. So I'm not attacking you friend. understand ?

Plus, I fking love new players, they're usually the least thickheaded and more open to learning and improving since they're looking for the help... They're like my dream come true.

Either way, I wanna repeat luvBunny's post real quick and say...

And how would you suggest they fix "the fast race" to lvl 99? Making those people take six month to a year to level just one job - and thats not including fully meriting and all those fancy new WS. That would kill the game fast than you can rejoice.

More or less, returning exp to what it used to be wouldn't make smarter higher level players, cause most of them will already be 99, and you can bet not a single new player would stay with this game if it took them ~1month to hit max level, or way more like it did back when... not including merits, etc... They'd quite, as mentioned, faster than you could rejoice.

Now, If SE said "Making a Nostalgia server would be a matter of days in terms of work", I'd be on your side, Cause it would be nice to have you all bundled in one spot... no offense intended... But who would determine which level of Nostalgia should be included? Which updates should they exclude? it would be harder than it sounds lol.

[Elphy]

Ok I will admit, I have complained a bit in the past about the new leveling system. BUT after having 5 fully merited 75s before aby made lvling up 10k times faster I have to say that if they would reinstate the old system, I would likely not play anymore. A good middle ground wouldnt be bad, but having to spend months lvling a job was not fun. Esp when you could have your flag up for literally a week solid and not get an invite. Or you could resort to one of the few jobs...rdm, brd, pld come to mind...that you would get invites without your flag even being up.

The only thing I do miss is the conversations and laughter you had with complete strangers in an old pt. The book burns and aby burns nowadays mostly lack that making it somewhat hard to get to know other players, form lasting friendships and linkshells. I think that is the only thing good about the old leveling days.

[Elphy]

Ok to get us back on target and avoid a flame war I'm going to bump my last relavent-to-the-topic thread

Ok I will admit, I have complained a bit in the past about the new leveling system. BUT after having 5 fully merited 75s before aby made lvling up 10k times faster I have to say that if they would reinstate the old system, I would likely not play anymore. A good middle ground wouldnt be bad, but having to spend months lvling a job was not fun. Esp when you could have your flag up for literally a week solid and not get an invite. Or you could resort to one of the few jobs...rdm, brd, pld come to mind...that you would get invites without your flag even being up.

The only thing I do miss is the conversations and laughter you had with complete strangers in an old pt. The book burns and aby burns nowadays mostly lack that making it somewhat hard to get to know other players, form lasting friendships and linkshells. I think that is the only thing good about the old leveling days.

Discuss

[Demon6324236]

The only thing I do miss is the conversations and laughter you had with complete strangers in an old pt. The book burns and aby burns nowadays mostly lack that making it somewhat hard to get to know other players, form lasting friendships and linkshells. I think that is the only thing good about the old leveling days.

Thats the same as how I feel, its why I never level new jobs slowly, even RUN I have gotten to 35 leveling in a duo or small party with my GF but after the first 35 levels its just gotten boring. Some of my best friends were from old experience parties, but they are not the same anymore, and even if they were, the people were the only thing I liked, the leveling itself was dreadful.

[Jaall]

Tbh, looking through my friendlist the majority on there aren't even from exp parties, most are from ls's and they still exist in the game and there are even more social ls's in the game now than there were years ago. That's mainly because big event shells have gone due to not really needing them so the main use for a linkshell now is just social which is great really imo.

[Candi]

I work hard all day. Ffxi is a stress reliever- It's a game and games are meant for fun. The last thing I want in a game is work. Trying to out lvl and out-item others is not fun to me. My character is well suited for the jobs I have with special thanks to my past and present LS friends and family (my brother helped me tremendously). But I don't play to brag.

I play for positive interaction with others. Some people think this game is a single player game to be beat. You can't beat this game... I help random strangers, not because I'm trying to show off my knowledge or skill set. But because its fun and rewarding to me. The day I boot this game up with the sole intention to get items will be the last day I play it (partial reason I quit before- the game was soured by selfish people using other people to get stuff). Could this be the reason ffxi is failing? Not because the game was too hard, but because everyone started racing to an invisible finish line. Some couldn't keep up, some didn't want to race in the first place, and others pushed people down just to get ahead.

If you remember my original thought, i married xp draining with putting others down if they aren't geared like you. I wish there were more argument on why that is acceptable and fun. I have a feeling, though, the players who lvl burn to get end game gear are the ones doing the bragging. If its not "you" then there's no reason to get defensive.

And this is all you will hear from me on this topic.