For anyone wondering this is what the new events look like

[Demon6324236]

To quote my Reive Alliance "I'm just tired of dying" <player disbands>

Everyone who thought the game was too easy should be happy now, since it seems you need a party of 6 with a tank and bard just to not wipe on the casual stuff.

Not liking the new direction at all.

How are you fighting? Do you have a healer? Are you popping -def abilities like Berserk or Last Resort? Do you use a TP/PDT Hybrid set for fighting if you have no healer? There are a number of reasons you may find yourself eating dirt, this is not Abyssea anymore, where everything can be soloed and its all easy. This is a dangerous jungle you were fighting in, one filled with a ton of wildlife which has not had people hunting it like the jungles near Kazham, but rather a much more dangerous one. This content was designed to be about players exploring and colonizing dangerous areas filled with monsters that make even the strongest of adventurers run in fear if they are alone. I do not know the conditions for your battle, but let me say it this way, party setup is returning in this expansion, if you had a bad setup, thats probably why you failed, if people were getting 1-shotted without compromising their defensive abilities then you would have a problem on your hands, but with how it is now, I think its fine myself.

[Demon6324236]

The only thing is that if you do not have the gear or levels the expansion is a bit unplayable...

Progressive content, do some Abyssea, get Perle, use that till you have Emp+2, use that till you get some more varied options to make a good TP and WS build for your DD of choice, after that go out and grab some PDT gear, like the Back from the Roc in Abyssea-Tah, or the Belt from Turul in Abyssea-Kon. With that you already will have 3 basic important sets for a job, it takes not to long to get, and you have not yet experienced this content if you have no gear from it. To expect to jump right in and do the expansion seems a bit off, its like saying I should be able to go play WoW, which I have never played, and start up that Panda expansion or whatever as a level 1, or that I should be able to play Mass Effect 3 and start up the Citadel expansion right after I start my file. The point is that you do content to progress first till you can do it, Abyssea has more than enough gear that you can get to start yourself out for Adoulin, and its not hard to get, with the new and returning players seal parties will see a rise again for a short time, nows your chance to join that and get your things done.

I am not trying to sound mean, but this expansion was released and announced as an endgame expansion, meant for level 99 characters with good gear, not every leeched/poorly geared job or lower level characters.

[Crusader81]

the pic shows my gear.. I'm using Apoc with VW PDT- gear..

A whm and me from LS went out and tried to duo, I can kill one just fine, that's not the issue, the aggro range for everything is as large as the accepted range to do the Reive..
I've accidently wondered out and before I even see the warning it's over.. I'm outside range and it takes my status for 10 mins. It's ridiculous

Anyhow we wiped in about 10 secs when everything in the area aggro'd me the whm wondered out and lost status and couldn't raise me.

at that point he said "this isn't fun at all.." to which we both agreed we lost all the excitement for wanting to play for the night, and are going to do other things.

To all you guys defending this crap, this is really how you want the game to be on the first Fri since release?

The game should have no higher interest than tonight and I'm not seeing very many ppl even on or interested after dying a ton.

I can see needing an alliance or party when doing a battlefield.. but this is walk up and engage content out in the field. It shouldn't be like this.

Total let down.

[Obysuca]

A whm and me from LS went out and tried to duo

[Found it!], there's your problem >.> At least 10 mobs and some walls. In 99 content . You thought you could duo? >.> This isn't easy mode Aby anymore. It's not hard to do a shout and get some people, that's how I ended up in an alliance for this, going around beating down every reive we ran into. Suck it up, it's not that difficult to find some people and use teamwork/strategy instead of thinking you can just DD + Whm everything.

[Cabalabob]

I can see needing an alliance or party when doing a battlefield.. but this is walk up and engage content out in the field. It shouldn't be like this.

Agreed, rieves aren't content that you get a party together to take on, they aren't even like campaign battles where you can actively seek out the area to fight and organise people to go there, this is just something you come across in the wild and jump in on but the difficulty is scaled to the point where you need to get organised with a group for something that you might come across on your journey and not many people travel in groups anymore they generally shout for content and go meet at it.

[katiekat]

if i remember right rieves were meant to be ment for low groups not full out party's least that is what they said at vannafest.

[Crusader81]

I was duoing just to test how long we'd live, we had to duo because everyone else was dead.

I think the fact so many mobs were up now shows how many people have lost interest since last night even.

[Mittenz]

They were being done fine on my server earlier today, in fact if you were not engaged in 5s of it popping you wouldnt be able to get any credit toward it because everything just died.

[Alhanelem]

Wow is this mean we are going back to Abyssea again? I am somewhat reminded to how Campaign was, and still like, today, avoided by most players, pretty much dead content. I see a dark future for this fail expansion.

you can't possibly be seirious.

So apparently, we can't have content be challenging at all, or nobody will play it and the whole expansion is a dud and unfun because it's not easy. Ooooohkaaaaay....

the pic shows my gear.. I'm using Apoc with VW PDT- gear..

A whm and me from LS went out and tried to duo, I can kill one just fine, that's not the issue, the aggro range for everything is as large as the accepted range to do the Reive..
I've accidently wondered out and before I even see the warning it's over.. I'm outside range and it takes my status for 10 mins. It's ridiculous

Anyhow we wiped in about 10 secs when everything in the area aggro'd me the whm wondered out and lost status and couldn't raise me.

at that point he said "this isn't fun at all.." to which we both agreed we lost all the excitement for wanting to play for the night, and are going to do other things.

To all you guys defending this crap, this is really how you want the game to be on the first Fri since release?

The game should have no higher interest than tonight and I'm not seeing very many ppl even on or interested after dying a ton.

I can see needing an alliance or party when doing a battlefield.. but this is walk up and engage content out in the field. It shouldn't be like this.

Total let down.

Translation:

Bla bla we tried to duo large scale content and got owned, shock and horror, game sucks, bye.

Now, I'm not saying its perfect or doesn't need any adjustments. But the expansion ihas been out 2 days- it's a bit much to make extreme presumptions this early.

Once the new job euphoria wears off, a larger portion of the playerbase will be going after this content. As long as it isn't impossible with like a party or more, I think it will be fine. There will undoubtedly tweaks and adjustments in future updates.

I don't think it does but if this thread represented teh whole playerbase, my, how fickle we've become to lose interest in sometihng after a single faliure. In any content in the past, most of us would have dusted ourselves off, got back up and said "let's try that again." But now it's try once and if you don't win, content sucks, give up, bye.

[Crusader81]

Tahn stop being rude. Why don't you load up your PUP or SMN and go do some battles.

I'm not suggesting we go back to Abyssea, but content this annoying, YES ANNOYING, where you walk out of AoE range for 3 secs and you're kicked out of battle for 10 mins NO EXCEPTIONS! and the AoE range of mobs covers the battle field of the event is just annoying and not fun.

Have you even played a good number of battles? at different times of day? This content should be totally do-able right now since this is when the most players are into the new content; if it's like this now it's only going to get worse, as more and more start to drop off.

I remember how things were in 2004, they've obviously decided to keep XI as exceptionally hard, and make XIV more "casual: aka non-agonizing"
I just don't want to go back to how things worked back then. Things have been steadily progressing since CoP, and now this is like right back to the start.
I'm not recruiting up a huge LS, dealing with a points system, and dealing with a bunch of scheduling conflicts.
so if you guys want to do that for an event that gives 1000 exp and 500 byald and by SE own addmission casual, then have fun. I can only imagine the hell coming if the casual content is this disfuctional.

Not to mention I finished all the missions in about an hour.

I do agree the quest format and exp rewards is a huge step in the right direction, but this other stuff just really takes away from what does work in this expansion.