Footwork

[Nvr]

This thread is really getting offtopic.
Let's just agree that:

1) Footwork atm is, at best, situational.
2) There are some simple things that could make it much more usable (like more than 2 hits)

Arguing over it's use compared to good H2H weapon is really getting nowhere, let's just hope SE makes it a little better someday.

Also, I really want to ask, did you lose a bet Cream_Soda? Because your sig is just awesome.

[MarkovChain]

ToM H2H weapon, which is a lot of killing pointless mobs for a pointless weapon.

WTF do you need this weapon for footwork. Do we really need OAT weapon TP spamming when we care about TP feeding. I think you are out of the loop.

Heaven forbid you run away from Briareus after a 1111 Mercurial. Seriously, shit isn't that hard. And if you don't have a contingency plan for Disgorge, you're doing it wrong.

Inbefore : 6 box

Yea, cause glavoid/Bri really has everything to do w/ Verethranga!

Ok, so I guess the way to duo glavoid with 2 mnks is to have both of them use footwork so you can stun lock him!

The best way to kill something is to brew it, but I think your are the specialist.

[Cream_Soda]

This thread is really getting offtopic.
Let's just agree that:

1) Footwork atm is, at best, situational.
2) There are some simple things that could make it much more usable (like more than 2 hits)

Arguing over it's use compared to good H2H weapon is really getting nowhere, let's just hope SE makes it a little better someday.

Also, I really want to ask, did you lose a bet Cream_Soda? Because your sig is just awesome.

Lol, that's not me

[Yarly]

but I think your are the specialist.

Everything anyone knows about MNK is largely due to Cream Soda.

If you got mnk advice from LS members, they probably got it from a post he made, or got it from someone who got it from a post he made, and so on.

A footwork build is pretty useless without the 2-3 Ursine Claws and the two mobs you listed are hardly a threat.

Also, inbefore 6box? You can kill Briareus solo on some jobs. Duo for sure on any DD+WHM. What the hell would you need SIX characters for?

[Greatguardian]

Everything anyone knows about MNK is largely due to Cream Soda.

If you got mnk advice from LS members, they probably got it from a post he made, or got it from someone who got it from a post he made, and so on.

A footwork build is pretty useless without the 2-3 Ursine Claws and the two mobs you listed are hardly a threat.

Also, inbefore 6box? You can kill Briareus solo on some jobs. Duo for sure on any DD+WHM. What the hell would you need SIX characters for?

This ^.

Meikyo Shisui is not a threat at all for anyone, solo or otherwise. Glavoid is also quite duoable Whm/Blm + DD; and I've heard of RDMs solo'ing it (though it takes forever). NIN/DNC could probably do it too with Migawari to block Disgorge, kiting if the timer was down, etc.

[MarkovChain]

Everything anyone knows about MNK is largely due to Cream Soda.

Lol, he is just repeating motenten/kinematics works.

[Cream_Soda]

Lol, he is just repeating motenten/kinematics works.

Now, I do. Why? Because he does all that stuff on his own time anyway. I was around before he started making major contributions and doing the math myself when he wasn't around to do so.

Currently, though, w/ his spreadsheet and knowing his math is good first hand, there's no reason to repeat the same math that's already been done.


either way, I don't need 6 people to do Bria, lol

[Shoko]

Lol, he is just repeating motenten/kinematics works.

Nah, CS is the original. Kinematics based some of his work offa the stuff Cream did.

Anything more than 3-4 people on Bria is too much imo, lol.

[Cream_Soda]

Nah, CS is the original. Kinematics based some of his work offa the stuff Cream did.

Anything more than 3-4 people on Bria is too much imo, lol.

Nah, not at all. Kine gets all the credit for his work. I've done general math. He goes complex as hell into it like factoring in tp overflow and just every minute detail

[MarkovChain]

Nope on a scale from 0 to 10, kinematics knows 8, cream soda 1. Nothing in the spreadsheet has been done by creamsoda, ranging from subtle use of probability theory, independance, approximation etc. Stop acting like he bases his work on yours. Like all BG posters, you can only read his work, nothing else.