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    Footwork

    To save the other topic from unrelated clutter, I decided to make a Footwork specific thread

    With a build specifically for Footwork, through personal experience I have found that DMG can easily match H2H, but have the bonus TP from WS as an addition. There are already aspects of footwork that are beneficial like the +15% attack, full tp per hit durring WS, slower but stronger (excluding empy H2H) attacks.

    However, in many situations, H2H outweighs Footwork, esspecially in Abyssea. But I feel Footwork could easily be altered to increase it's usefullness, maybe decrease the delay or increase the dmg so it can compare to H2H dmg.

    That being said, imo, a MNK that has geared and build for Footwork is not gimp for using it, but it is pretty easy for that MNK to tell if it is worth them using or not. No one should refuse Footwork having any use. Esspecially when it can be put back into good use with one of two very easy adjustments.
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    kick arts: Grants a bonus to attack speed when using footwork (ja haste)
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    Some trait that would increase kick speed like martial arts does with H2H would be nice.
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    Kick Attack base DMG needs to go up by more than 18 for it to really work better or it needs to benefit from Martial Arts. Going from 2 hits per round at 280 delay to 1 hit per round at 480 delay screws you over pretty badly when the DMG increase is so low (even with Tantra Gaiters +2.)
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    If it were to benefit from martial arts though, you're going to lose your xhit and on average take more attack rounds to get to a WS. Depending on how much the delay is lowered, this may actually hurt footwork since it's more heavy on the WS side of DoT/WS distribution.

    As far as the OP goes, in the CURRENT state of the game, the only use for footwork is for quick tp gain (w/ 2-4 h2h) for proccing blue !! when it's h2h during blunt time.

    As far as damage goes, it can be about equal w/ non victory smite non relic h2h outside of abyssea, but totally worthless inside of abyssea.

    Though, even when next update comes out, the DMG+ on footwork comes from foot weapon. h2h options are going to get stronger w/ higher base dmg and more new stats, while w/ footwork it's unlikely they're going to make new shoes that are better than af3+2
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    Footwork is very usefull for stun locking a mobs with two monks on it. TP gains is faster than H2H and TP given is much lower lower. It's for when you want to play it safe. Things where I've used it are : glavoid and briareus. The killing speed doesn't matter that much on them, TP spam does.
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    I've never had any sort of problems on either of those mobs where stun locking would have been necessary, lol. If you need stun that bad, swap one of the mnks for a blu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    I've never had any sort of problems on either of those mobs where stun locking would have been necessary, lol. If you need stun that bad, swap one of the mnks for a blu
    Considering you don't have your level 90 weapon 4 month after release I'd say you are not in position to giving advice. Claiming TP spam is not an issue on a mob that can do a 9k damage tp damage and another one that can instantaneoulsy rape you if unlucky with the 1111 is proof that you don't know what you are taling about. Go duo glavoid then go back to me.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 03-22-2011 at 05:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Considering you don't have your level 90 weapon 4 month after release I'd say you are not in position to giving advice. Claiming TP spam is not an issue on a mob that can do a 9k damage tp damage and another one that can instantaneoulsy rape you if unlucky with the 1111 is proof that you don't know what you are taling about. Go duo glavoid then go back to me.
    Heaven forbid you run away from Briareus after a 1111 Mercurial. Seriously, shit isn't that hard. And if you don't have a contingency plan for Disgorge, you're doing it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Considering you don't have your level 90 weapon 4 month after release I'd say you are not in position to giving advice. Claiming TP spam is not an issue on a mob that can do a 9k damage tp damage and another one that can instantaneoulsy rape you if unlucky with the 1111 is proof that you don't know what you are taling about. Go duo glavoid then go back to me.
    Yea, cause glavoid/Bri really has everything to do w/ Verethranga!

    Ok, so I guess the way to duo glavoid with 2 mnks is to have both of them use footwork so you can stun lock him!
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