New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Elexia]

Why should people who work harder .

Sitting on your ass collecting hundreds to thousands of low drop rate items isn't hard work. It's a test of patience and how much you're willing to waste your time for something.

The ironic thing is, the people crying now were bitching at people who suggested making getting the items easier or adding them to other content when that would have been a 100x better solution than these new weapons, but hey, people hate seeing their "status" taken from them.

Also it's been about a week now, does your entire server have all of these weapons yet? Are the AH flooded with the "better buyable weapons" yet? Have people stopped working on VW/Dynamis/Mythic upgrading? Are people not buying out Alexandrites/Dross/Cinder/Plates/Merrow/etc?

I'm curious to know, because on my 2 servers (Asura and Odin) people are still going business as usual.

[Karbuncle]

Actually, I've noticed a dead drop/stall on most Currency sales. People might still make Ukkonvasara or Vereth simply cause of the WS, but honestly even MNKs are like "Fk it, Shijin Spiral time with the new h2h".

As for the server, One guy i did ones with has about 90k Points, he could own 3 of the weapons at any time, and already owns 2-3 pieces of armor, these things, despite how some people might be, are stupid easy to obtain, its irrelevant if someone has "all" of them, you can't get "all RME" in a week, let alone 1, but the fact is these are popping up everywhere.

IDK why I'm even arguing this? IDC how easy they are to obtain or how much they beat RME, personally I'm just upset at SE's lack of foresight in this and the fact my FFXI is driving down GenericGearGrinder Boulevard, which frightens me cause every MMO I played that did this has grow stale for me (and the other thousands of people who left it for dead) within weeks...

[OmnysValefor]

So few people seem to be enjoying the game anymore.

What is the opposite of expansion, because that's what Adoulin is.

[Camiie]

So few people seem to be enjoying the game anymore.

What is the opposite of expansion, because that's what Adoulin is.

The word you're looking for is Contraction.

[fernando]

I for one still <3 the game,with new areas and content,i am a happy camper except for some issues with "Critical chop" i,m good..As pld i got screwed when we were still at 75 cap,now i,m happy again to be paladin with some relevance!!

[fernando]

I also do not think SE Would make the work ppl have put into the R/M/E weapons,only because it would make those that put in that time have rage issues..........Just saying.

[Krashport]

I do want to thank you for being the only person for this Hyperdrivegeargrind XI update to take the time to answer my question. But as said, I would like to respond. (Edited in: Please understand, after about the first paragraph I am no longer addressing you directly, once you get to the point where my posts becomes gradually less "nice", you'll know I'm not addressing you anymore, and generally just the entire populace fapping to our 'tears')

The guy who used the company metaphor is spot on. By which reasoning do you think doing less effort means should be getting the same rewards as someone putting in double/triple/quadruple your work? If i worked for 20 hours a week, should i be outraged that i don't get paid the same amount as people who play 40 hours a week? I'm sorry but this is exactly what you're doing, rather it be a game or a job, Effort = Reward, in MMOs, and even in every offline game ever. Things aren't just handed to you because you feel entitled to them.

There is so many metaphors, so much feeling, so much love that some are pouring into a video game. I mean with all that time and energy poured into a video game and not having or learning the ability to realize things will replace other things. I wouldn't call that time and energy well spent.

And one point in particular, you make it seem as If these people with RMEC had some unfair advantage in obtaining them. They don't. YOU, ALL OF YOU who sit there and Float on about how easy to obtain RMEC are, don't even own one, but the kicker is, you could get a Relic with less than 2hours a day, 2 hours even if you want to take full advantage of the zone time... You could make an Empyrean, over a longer period of time, with less than 2hours a day, Mythic is another story but it always has been, and while it would take a long time, you could also do it with less than 2 hours of effort a day.

All of these weapons you already have the EQUAL AND OPPORTUNE RIGHTS TO OBTAIN, its just a matter of how or how not lazy you are, Because every single event to obtain a RMEC can be done, casually, in 1 hour. That and some of you need to realize the difficulty and power of the NM's and delve itself means that the general type of people cheering these new weapons are likely never to see one within the first 2-3 months because no ones going to want a non RME DD or because no ones going to want to let you essentially Leech. Plus, the AH weapons you cheer about are likely going to cost you half/fourth the price of a relic for the first few months they're in the game.

So in all honesty, There's still a huge amount of effort you'll need to put into obtaining these. Unless you get lucky and someone lets you leech their run, you're just going to be sitting in town, like you did for 11 years when you could have been out doing dynamis for a relic, so the difference is moot, and to be frank, all of you are really just happy us evil elitists can't have our special satan weapons to hold over you sweet innocent saints.

Honestly, and I'm covering my bases with this, if you didn't get a RMEC because it wasn't "fun", then why do you care that other people did so much that it makes you get a Gameboner because these weapons are being outdated? You do and always have had the same chances and oppurtunities as current RMEC holders are, the only difference was motivation and drive. When i got my mandau, i was playing very casually, i worked for a Webhosting company full time, and I solo'd most of the dynamis runs during Stage III/IV, it took me months and months and months, But all i needed to do was dedicated 2hours a day, hell I didn't even go every day. I'm living proof incarnate that the argument or RL, Time constraints, "Special blah blah" is just a logical falacy and a scapegoat used to give your arguments more "umph" because when you ask yourself, "Why am i happy?" all you can think of is you have an unnatural hatred of RMEC owners because they work harder than you, and had better gear to show for it, and you can't stand that.

(Though, I will hit one for your side too, some of the RMEC i see are actually raging for the opposite reason, they feel special and now they're angry they can't be "Better" Than everyone, but this is like 5% of the RMEC population, almost every RME I've met got their 95-99 Version only because they loved the job and wanted to be better at it, not show it off and laugh at you folk).

I'm not on any side to be honest. I just play and enjoy the game when I can with family and friends.

had their file corrupted

Maybe that save file got corrupted because it wasn't replaced with a new and updated one. Maybe the Employee who is getting paid more, is sleeping with the manager. Maybe the person that is passing the grade, is working on some extra credits... Come on say it with me, I play the game, the game does not play me!

[Zumi]

Also it's been about a week now, does your entire server have all of these weapons yet? Are the AH flooded with the "better buyable weapons" yet? Have people stopped working on VW/Dynamis/Mythic upgrading? Are people not buying out Alexandrites/Dross/Cinder/Plates/Merrow/etc?

A lot of people have stopped upgrading old weapons, currency, plates, alex, ect have pretty much slowed and you don't see many voidwatch shouts now.

[OmnysValefor]

And the "setback" he is referring to is the new weapon selection. Realistically, most dedicated players will only have access to the buyable Plasm weapons (like Aphotic Kukri) so 1H users have only one hand with new DPS. They're left either offhanding an old knife for the benefits of Dual Wield or single wielding, which represents a substantial DPS hit in either case. 2H users also only have access to buyable Plasm weapons, but they can use those weapons on 100% of their swings/WSs.

Thus, if the new Plasm weapons represent a 30% DPS increase, 1H users see something more like a 15% DPS increase while 2H users get the full 30%. This widens the gap between the two types of weapons even further.

Further, a point very much worth consideration, is the accuracy difference, setting aside 2h dex calculations.

[Karbuncle]

There is so many metaphors, so much feeling, so much love that some are pouring into a video game. I mean with all that time and energy poured into a video game and not having or learning the ability to realize things will replace other things. I wouldn't call that time and energy well spent.

Time and Energy Well spent are relative/subjective so i can understand why you may see it differently, but at the end of the day, I'd say so long as you enjoy what you're do, the time you spend is well spent.

Rather its drinking your tears away at a bar, partying with friends, playing FOOZBALL, calling people idiots on a forum, or FFXI, Each task is equally irrelevant in the grand scheme of ones finite lifespan, so you can't really waste time, since you're given the option to spend it as you see fit .

Thats just a minor issue though. Horrific philosophicak crap out of the way, you mention it, and i wanted to make it a little clear, everyone who plays FFXI probably plays to have fun, its just fun is subjective, what you find fun they might not find fun, and vice versa. The view that this is good or this is bad are both equally wrong because there is no black and white when it comes to it. Saddly, as much as i hate the gear grind, It doesn't make it a bad choice, as much as those who think outdating relics think its "good" are equally wrong.