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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaall View Post
    I actually LOVE that idea! On any NM that's killed in say a minute that should last a lot longer, they should just have auto benediction lol, would be a new challenge for people and force them to use a strategy. Definitely a good fix for the whole zerging thing.
    But if you can zerg it down in a minute or two even benediction wouldnt be anything more than a minor annoyance.

    What would be nice is if say they introduced a nm that cycled thru weaknesses, blunt/piercing/magic/etc at random or one that just became plain invulnerable to ws/magic/etc damage unless certain conditions were met (ie nm is only vulnerable to magic damage when silenced, or nm is only vulnerable to piercing damage while poisoned), so you couldnt just easily zerg it. Even enfeebs being useful again would be great since as of now they are all but worthless on most mobs and esp most nm in the game.

    A good ai that adapted to your fight style would also make things a whole lot more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaall View Post
    I actually LOVE that idea! On any NM that's killed in say a minute that should last a lot longer, they should just have auto benediction lol, would be a new challenge for people and force them to use a strategy. Definitely a good fix for the whole zerging thing.
    No it wouldn't. It would be just the same old tank and spank or kiting. Really thanks to FFXI outdated code and LOLps2 there are only 3 ways to beat any boss, tank and spank, kite, zerg. With the over use of 30 min time limits zerg ahs became the main strat since you don't have the time or the area to do the other two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areayea View Post
    tbh I do want another av... i want another 7 avs... I think that'd be awesome >.>; there is an undefeatable mob that takes very specific strategies to defeat... rather than that zerg it down strat that you just outlined. as for that zerg it down before it kills us I want these to have benediction that activates if you do that >.> I think it'd be awesome.
    Except you'd just zerg it down .....

    You realize we killed AV by zerging right .... until SE patched it ... then we zerged it again ... and again and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Except you'd just zerg it down .....

    You realize we killed AV by zerging right .... until SE patched it ... then we zerged it again ... and again and again.
    not like AV now... AV like it used to be... impossible to cap defense, uses all the tricks in the book, and like the 75 AV... impossible; nowadays everything old content is a push over... as for the other person above about the kite, zerg, and tank and zerg methods... remember, there did used to be more to this game than kite and zerg... there was defeat this one first. lol god I remember passing and failing so much on divine might back in the day. and don't forget about throwing things at sky gods helped... then there were outside party strats. ect. you see where I'm going, nobody is used to things that can't be "zerged down" lol maybe they should make these new bosses be resistant to slashing damage... that would throw a wrench in DD's gears XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areayea View Post
    not like AV now... AV like it used to be... impossible to cap defense, uses all the tricks in the book, and like the 75 AV... impossible; nowadays everything old content is a push over... as for the other person above about the kite, zerg, and tank and zerg methods... remember, there did used to be more to this game than kite and zerg... there was defeat this one first. lol god I remember passing and failing so much on divine might back in the day. and don't forget about throwing things at sky gods helped... then there were outside party strats. ect. you see where I'm going, nobody is used to things that can't be "zerged down" lol maybe they should make these new bosses be resistant to slashing damage... that would throw a wrench in DD's gears XD
    Do you know how AV got killed at 75? Kraken club DRKs zerg until they nerfed Blood weapon.
    Also back in the days there used to be outside parties for only one reason : every end game linkshells had more than 18 people who showed up to events.
    Why do you think people prefer to zerg every NMs? It's way better to spend 10mins to buff and kill something then stare at a screen for 2hrs and pray for a win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotto View Post
    Do you know how AV got killed at 75? Kraken club DRKs zerg until they nerfed Blood weapon.
    Also back in the days there used to be outside parties for only one reason : every end game linkshells had more than 18 people who showed up to events.
    Why do you think people prefer to zerg every NMs? It's way better to spend 10mins to buff and kill something then stare at a screen for 2hrs and pray for a win.
    lol embrava gimp reminds me of blood weapon gimp, but still I miss the days of ppl spending 2 hrs to pray for a win... mind I remind you of the 18 hour Pandemonium warden XD; I still say they'll fix the zerg strat by making the mobs resist slashing... would make a ton of rangers/cors get knocked out tho O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areayea View Post
    lol embrava gimp reminds me of blood weapon gimp, but still I miss the days of ppl spending 2 hrs to pray for a win... mind I remind you of the 18 hour Pandemonium warden XD; I still say they'll fix the zerg strat by making the mobs resist slashing... would make a ton of rangers/cors get knocked out tho O.o
    Then we just kill it with MNKs or DRG / RNG / CORs / SAMs.

    Currently FFXI's engine doesn't support very dynamic interactive fights. All fights end up boiling down to a set of dice rolls of you vs the NM, and that it turn leads to weighting the dice in your favor and rolling as many times as possible. Aka "zerging".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotto View Post
    Also back in the days there used to be outside parties for only one reason : every end game linkshells had more than 18 people who showed up to events.
    That's wrong. A very tiny minority of endgame linkshells were playing like this mostly NA (and they ended up doing the same old shit like fafnir anyway). Everyone else was using one LS per event with much less people per linkshell usually. The only thing I did with more than 18 was einherjar and old dynamis, and the rest was done in small LS of max 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Areayea View Post
    tbh I do want another av... i want another 7 avs... I think that'd be awesome >.>; there is an undefeatable mob that takes very specific strategies to defeat...
    What? What "strategy" are you going to employ against an undefeatable mob? Spirit bomb? Spiral power? Ultrazord?

    rather than that zerg it down strat that you just outlined. as for that zerg it down before it kills us I want these to have benediction that activates if you do that >.> I think it'd be awesome.
    Final Fantasy XI Online. We're the MMO with more masochists than Second Life.
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    Yea, so back on topic, JP just got GS from skirmish, damage 179, +11 strength, +10% Weapon skill damage. Who cares about just the r/m/e it shits on. How about all the content in this game. SE is so stupid, they killed my entire drive of playing this game for years. This error on SE's behalf makes it pointless to do VW now, for gil at least (Akk those pulse weapons, quilin run is definitly worthless) because hmp are useless, nobody going to make anything other than harp 99, so good luck there if you haven't finished that.

    Instead of your customers having new content and old content to enjoy and pay you for, once again you trashed the rest if the game. And sped up the process of this game ending. I know this was done for the purpose of making money, but I see it as epic failure. I'm not doing an I quit martyar thread, but I am not paying to beta test an expansion that defies the ffxi trend for the past 11 years, and killed all of my long term goals in game. My only regret is I paid for the expansion, which except for these game breaking weapons, I enjoyed.

    FYI, I have ochain 90, kanagi 85, almace 85, started aegis. So it's not like I'm rocking a 95 relic or 99. And I'm pissed. I almost have enough for a 85 empyrean gun, as well as being half way thru making the harp, and a few items towards the dager/ga and bow. I would make a 99 relic, but not many empyrean I thought were worth the 1500 hmps...so the idea behind 1500 was to balance them, but really, you just wasted my dam time because I refuse to do the 1500 hmp on any of the empyreans I have. The harp to me is the only thing worth making to 99.

    Now I dont mind new weapons being better, but better has to be balanced. Better has to take a long time to acquire, there was reason to fear. The fear was correct

    I wouldn't have outclassed e/r/m and pulse weapons that easily. Since the player's minds, part of that mindset is building an endgame calibur weapon.besides a few empyreans, I never thought they were worth it past 90. Part of the beauty of the empyreans was you could take them to 90, they werent the best but they weren't junk.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 04-08-2013 at 12:28 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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