New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Crusader81]

Yea, so back on topic, JP just got GS from skirmish, damage 179, +11 strength, +10% Weapon skill damage. Who cares about just the r/m/e it shits on. How about all the content in this game. SE is so stupid, they killed my entire drive of playing this game for years. This error on SE's behalf makes it pointless to do VW now, for gil at least (Akk those pulse weapons, quilin run is definitly worthless) because hmp are useless, nobody going to make anything other than harp 99, so good luck there if you haven't finished that.

Instead of your customers having new content and old content to enjoy and pay you for, once again you trashed the rest if the game. And sped up the process of this game ending. I know this was done for the purpose of making money, but I see it as epic failure. I'm not doing an I quit martyar thread, but I am not paying to beta test an expansion that defies the ffxi trend for the past 11 years, and killed all of my long term goals in game. My only regret is I paid for the expansion, which except for these game breaking weapons, I enjoyed.

FYI, I have ochain 90, kanagi 85, almace 85, started aegis. So it's not like I'm rocking a 95 relic or 99. And I'm pissed. I almost have enough for a 85 empyrean gun, as well as being half way thru making the harp, and a few items towards the dager/ga and bow. I would make a 99 relic, but not many empyrean I thought were worth the 1500 hmps...so the idea behind 1500 was to balance them, but really, you just wasted my dam time because I refuse to do the 1500 hmp on any of the empyreans I have. The harp to me is the only thing worth making to 99.

Now I dont mind new weapons being better, but better has to be balanced. Better has to take a long time to acquire, there was reason to fear. The fear was correct

I wouldn't have outclassed e/r/m and pulse weapons that easily. Since the player's minds, part of that mindset is building an endgame calibur weapon.besides a few empyreans, I never thought they were worth it past 90. Part of the beauty of the empyreans was you could take them to 90, they werent the best but they weren't junk.

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Yeah all of this.
I'm sure they'll fix the R/E/M as fast as they implemented Cait Sith and Atomos for Summoner.

[Manux]

still think relics should still surpass any weapons out there due to the word "relics" They need to adjust the weapons, They have all ready sorted out the Twilight Scythe it was big argument against it I'm sure they can pull something off with the relics.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

still think relics should still surpass any weapons out there due to the word "relics"

Allow me to show you my complete collection of relic Warrior's Armor...

[Jaall]

Point is these "relic-breakers" are in the game already.... the relic adjustments, where are they? If they implemented these weapons already and knew of any balance at all they would have adjusted already. Don't get your hopes up that SE have adjustments in mind within the next few months.

[detlef]

The best 99 R/M/E should not be outclassed by a direct drop weapon, even if the weapon still has to be augmented to be awesome. That just doesn't make sense.

[Kincard]

neither side has any proof their speculation is warranted.

There's no proof on either side, but the "adjustments will be worthless" side has way better precedent.

just saiyan

I shouldn't be able to outclass 99 Relics simply by entering a ~45 mInute event with 3-6 people.

I think it depends on if they plan on keeping the simulacrum this rare. If they stay this rare people are going to charge like 10M per piece and you only get 2/14 of the weapons to drop per run- would end up costing you quite a bit in theory. At best they should be probably a bit below relics.

[Luvbunny]

We can argue all we wants, I don't think they will quack on what their plans are for R/M/E. Or you can go back to Abyssea - Voidwatch - Meeble - Neo Stuffs - Legion. Seems like SoA contents are not worth doing, but worth farming items while they are still hot and in high demands. Make sure to voice your critical opinion (and maybe a suggestion or two - assuming they really care what we think....). Then just quietly unsubscribe for a few months, wait till they implement a good updates or two, then play for a couple of months and take more breaks. Save yourself the agony, and save your money. You can easily save $15-80 a month depending on how many accounts you have.

[Cair]

I see no reason for not adjusting the available weapons at the same time as making these new weapons available.

Did you not know what the stats were going to be -- picked them blindfolded or something of the sort?

[Demon6324236]

Your right, but really when doing this kind of out classing of old gear they really need to adjust the old gear in one of two ways, either A, make it easier to obtain, or B, make it better so it can stand up to the new gear. In other words, they need to make Pulse weapons better drop rates than simply 1% or bellow, or they need to change the weapons to be good enough to stand up to a level 99 weapon, like the new ones. Relics and such got this treatment in the ability to upgrade them, but they did not do it with anything else, and they did not adjust the drop rates on anything but the old Salvage gear so far as I know, so this old gear which is weaker is still a pain to get, harder than weapons which are much better, which is poor design.

[Kincard]

Maybe they'll take this opportunity to make sure the last 2, most expensive upgrades for Empyreans aren't also the most insignificant (outside of Harp). That's always made me go "wat".