To all adventurers and pioneers!

[Sarick]

Karbuncle and Yinnyth I've read your post and liked them. I simply can't disagree with what either of you have stated. In fact there are similarities in your comments to what I've been saying or already said in different wording. I truly want to thank you for responding. A lot of what you said backs up some of the points I made or wanted to make. I also felt the need to respond to the both of you out of respect. I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable with you thinking your responses to my post went blowing to the wind.

I myself rant a lot as you probably figured out already. If you look at my post history a lot of what I say is created to envision outside the box views or create new ideas. I do try and constructively figure things out when I make complaints. To me I believe that when you have a problem before you can complain look for solutions to fix it first. If you think of something then you've invested enough thought into it you either offer a solution or explain what is upsetting you.

Sometimes this style isn't enough or is the passion behind it. It's truly in the best interest if communication reaches the movers and shakers who manage things behind the red tape. The only way to get this attention sometimes is to capture it with logical rants. As Yinnyth stated about true heros staying their hand. I agree. There can be a downside to this logic though in most situations. You see, if the hero and the defenders eyes meet face to face they'll notice each other. If the defender doesn't see the hero swinging his sword for a just cause then he/she has no reason to make a treaty or even acknowledge the heroes cause.

Karbuncle when you commented about the asinine complaints I laughed hard. I agree some of these complaints can be a bit off the loop end. I also see you acknowledge the recent trends in developers making critical mistakes or creating problems. You seem to understand that you're the customer and have a right to complain if it's a valid reason.

[FrankReynolds]

The situation is sort of like this... Imagine you are 8 years old. it's Christmas and you have no idea what is under the tree. You open your present and it's a set of rims and tires for your old bike. You got a new set of rims and tires and life is good.

Now imagine that instead of that surprise, your parents told you a year ahead of time that you were getting a brand new aluminum race bike for Christmas (Yay! Exciting). But then throughout the year whenever you asked for something, they would tell you they couldn't do it because they were working on getting your new bike (Slightly disappointing but probably still worth it). Then they told you that you will also have to fork out some money of your own for the bike (Okay, now I'm not so sure I want the bike). Then a week before Christmas, they tell you that you that they didn't actually get the whole bike for you. they only got the rims and tires. But, if you keep putting up with the lack of attention and the scaled back meals, they should have the whole bike for you by summer maybe. Now imagine that you desperately want to believe them, but the lingering odor in the house keeps reminding you that they still haven't come through with the indoor plumbing that they promised you by last summer so you have all been taking washcloth baths and going to the bathroom in 5 gallon buckets.


I think that strange analogy probably sums up how a lot of people feel. Knowing that someone is doing a lot of stuff that you really don't like with something that you really enjoy is bad enough. Paying them to do it really bites though. I doubt that the developers are hateful or apathetic towards their players. I doubt that they are stupid or inept. At this point I am at a complete loss as to what the disconnect is. All I know is that it can't continue like this forever. At some point someone needs to really explain to them what their decisions do to the community. Unfortunately this site is our only means of communication and so far as I can tell, the only time anyone pays attention to us is when we either have some horrible discussion that pisses them off to the point where they feel the need to moderate and / or post a response telling us to knock it off, or when they have something to say and need to post it in a place where it will be just a tad relevant.

[Yinnyth]

I'm sorry that SE makes you feel like an 8-year-old. I'm sorry that 8-year-old version of yourself had to pay his own parents money. I'm sorry that the Christmas gift your parents promised you a year in advance was not delivered on time.

I'm sorry that the company you currently choose to pay makes you feel like the child of delinquent parents whom you have no choice whether or not they're your parents.

Don't worry though. Everything will be alright. Because according to your analogy, I'm your brother, and I'm ok with the Christmas gift I'm receiving, even though it's exactly the same as yours.

[Phogg]

SE's answer to my legitimate criticisms was to delete them and ban me from the forums until now. In hindsight, I have to give them kudos for a bold and unconventional customer service technique.

The good news is I'll be saving some money not buying the expansion for my wife and myself. Great job!

[Camate]

Hello everyone!

Below is a follow-up from Producer Matsui in regards to questions about how relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons will be handled moving forward after Seekers of Adoulin.

Hello,

Matsui here.

We've been receiving some questions in regards to what we will be doing with relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons moving forward, so I would like to address what I can at the moment.

We are not planning to enhance relic, mythic, or empyrean weapons via Trial of the Magians or through other methods.

However, in regards to these weapons that you have enhanced up to level 99, we are formulating plans so that they do not go to waste. (Including the weapons that do not yet have their afterglows.)

In regards to the shields and instruments, even in light of the growth that will take place for characters with Adoulin equipment, these in particular are still at the highest caliber and will not be addressed in the plans mentioned above.

While I'm unable to talk about the specifics at this point in time, as soon as the time comes where I can, I will be sure to let you all know.

[Horadrim]

Hello everyone!

Below is a follow-up from Producer Matsui in regards to questions about how relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons will be handled moving forward after Seekers of Adoulin.

Magian Animators, <Can I Have It?>

[Sarick]

While I'm unable to talk about the specifics at this point in time, as soon as the time comes where I can, I will be sure to let you all know.

So you are going forward with the ethereal weapons? Do we need to do other things to keep the emps comparable to those new pure magic based weapons? I know your making new content but after all the work that was done to create some of these trial weapons those balances best be useful or you'll make a lot of players very unhappy.

I know there is an advantage to having magic based weapons that do 90% pure magic damage over physical attack power. Please keep the relics, mythics and empys relevant to players. I assume that we should be able to equip attachments or other gear in either a ring, earring, grip or ranged slot to empower/convert them into comparable magic damage. This way they can still compete with the new weapons.

I don't want to be forced to get a new END GAME weapon just so I can do a fight with a pickup group. You see If I only have empy they'll say YOU NEED an ethereal weapon to be a DD in this fight because this enemy resist physical damage. All our melees must have level 90+ ethereal weapons that are fully charged or we won't be able to kill it! If we can't find enough DD's with ethereals we'll replace them with mages SORRY!

[HimuraKenshyn]

Man why do I have a sick feeling in my tummy atm itemization without a real plan makes me a sad panda.....

[SpankWustler]

So you are going forward with the ethereal weapons? Do we need to do other things to keep the emps comparable to those new pure magic based weapons? I know your making new content but after all the work that was done to create some of these trial weapons those balances best be useful.

I know there is an advantage to having magic based weapons that do 90% pure magic damage over physical attack power but please keep the relics, mythics and empys relevant. I assume that we'll be able to equip attachments or other gear in either a ring, earring, grip or ranged slot to empower/convert them to magic damage. This way they can compete with the new weapons.

I don't want to be forced to get a new END GAME weapon just so I can do a fight with a pickup group. You see If I only have empy they'll say YOU NEED and ethereal weapon to be a DD in this fight because this enemy resist physical damage. All our melees must have level 90+ ethereal weapons that are fully charged or we won't be able to kill it!

The odds of anyone else requiring you to own a line of weapons that, as far as I can tell, have been announced only in your own mind seem extremely low.

Additionally, one major reason given for Twilight Scythe's conversion into a paperweight is that Broducer Matsui wakes up each new day and hates sources of non-attribute damage more than the day before. Seeing a ton of new non-attribute damage weapons after hearing that seems unlikely.

[Sarick]

The odds of anyone else requiring you to own a line of weapons that, as far as I can tell, have been announced only in your own mind seem extremely low.

They didn't announce it right, so it's still sarcastic. There is some truth here as this has been happening for a while in yells for pickup groups. Based on his quote what do you think is being planned for future gear if he was talking about other weapons not going to waste as they moved forward with new gear? Humm, he can't say yet. As noted he made changes to the twilight scythe for balance in this expansion. Anyway, that comment I made caught your attention didn't it? Maybe that was the whole point of it or maybe it wasn't.

Everyone thought the game would never go above the level 75 cap.
Everyone thought Blinkers would always be available for side cash.
No one imagined that they'd make it so players could sync with party members at any level.
I'm sure there are plenty of shocks in the history of this game.