To all adventurers and pioneers!

[Demon6324236]

Your game character does not belong to you, it belongs to SE. The terms of service go out of their way to make this abuntantly clear. You're giving up nothing by leaving.

So I assume were your character banned, all of your things deleted, you would not care? You would give it no mind or thought after it happened because it was not your character after all? No, your argument is fairly flawed from this standpoint, it is your character in the fact it has become part of your identity, much as this restaurant has that you speak of. People are choosing to give up that part of their identity in order to make a stand of sorts and hopefully pull attention to this particular issue. Basically these people are not giving up something they have no care about, that they have no sense of attachment to, rather they are giving up something they have an attachment to because they have given up hope that SE will ever fix their problems, because more keep stacking up, and its gotten to the point they simply give up.

[Seha]

I disagree with all my fellows complaining.

I can't wait for the expansion to be here and am glad I'll have even more things to look forward to after it's out.

I am excited.

[Wystan]

Thank you SE for making such a mess of the release over here in the E.U because of it I was unable to buy it and still am might i add, So thanks for saving me some cash sounds like you all bought an empty expansion i feel for you guys in the U.S.

[SpankWustler]

I get why people are jumpy. Wings of the Goddess launched with Campaign, Campaign, Campaign, and additionally Campaign. There were a grand total of three zones that were actually new. The expansion never gained that much ground, either.

From what's been shown over the live streams, though, it feels like Seekers of Adoulin is more likely to similar to Treasures of Aht Urhgan at launch. It won't be anything near complete right out of the box, but there will be almost a dozen new areas and more than one event. Also, if the items shown in the last Japanese livestream are anything to go by, there will be actual rewards.

If the things given a loose date aren't pushed back, Summer isn't that far off at all. If a lot of stuff is pushed back and Darker Ixion starts showing up in half the new zones as a symbol of stuff I really hate, that's when I'll rage and roar and write a novella about the dictates of the limbless insect lord who moves through time on its undulating underbelly.

For now, though, I'm just happy they've given out a time frame and that most of the stuff on it is scheduled for Summer.

There's this restaurant I like to eat my lunches at.

You don't have to browse Yelp reviews calling a place's food "overcooked vegetables shaped into crude dwellings for dysfunctional families of under-seasoned meat married to strangely scatological sauces" on your smartphone while waiting for your lunch.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

The first I do not recall the exact specifics of, but I recall nothing against the ToS. The second post explained the first had nothing against the ToS, both were deleted.

Remember, kids: criticizing Square-Enix is itself a violation of the terms of service. Read the sig!

[ManaKing]

You know, I remember with this forum was alive with bitching about them never talking enough, and "just give us some info" was all everyone was asking for, even if it wasnt 100% finalized, knowing their "plans" for the future was wanted... Which is why a Timeline was asked for, so on, so forth.

Now this new director is actually actively giving us progress updates, informing us of delays and whats planned in the far and near future, which is loads more than we can say we got before he was heading this ship, and still, endless b*tching.

I mean, I honestly lost brain cells upon reading the guy who said he no longer wants to try GEO because of its Aura, and Bell... Both of which we knew were part of the job from literally square one. Just made literally 10% of my braincells commit suicide, knowing they share the same earth with his brain cells was too much for them.

But, In all seriousness, I'm going to try to be the voice of reason here, and calmly say.. MAKE UP YER GD MINDS! He may not be giving us great news but at least we're in the loop now, and getting SOME news, and not finding out its been delayed on the day of the update like we used to.

SoA Is going to be released with a solid amount of out-of-box content, the 7 "HNMs" alone will probably keep us busy for a while, including the Weapon augment system shown in the JP Live stream... colonization and reives are likely going to be something we're doing for a good time considering the dagger i saw was pretty bad*ss, the other weapons likely follow suit.

They're delaying some things, its expected, its happened since FFXI existed, I know its disappointing, but at least its not on the same level as Alexander or Odin yet (though, Cait Sith will be)... plus, they're expecting most of it introduced in Summer, which generally speaking, is about 2 months... the general length between updates anyway, so its most likely just being pushed back 1, maybe 2 updates at best.

Now, come May/June if they delay it again, I'll take up pitchforks with you, for now, just... seriously quite with the emo... not saying not to complain when they do sh*t baddly, because thats dumb... Just... have some bloody consistency.

<3. Agreed. Crying on forums is getting really distasteful because people are getting a little too disrespectful. Devs are trying to give us things and people are slapping it out of their hand and then screaming at them after we were all asking for more to be done and be informed of what was being done. I don't think people seem to realize that just because we are told what they are doing, doesn't mean we always get to tell them how to do their jobs.

If you want more input on SE's video games, you should learn Japanese, actually have a career in video game production, and be good enough to get hired by SE. Until then, maybe people should show a little more courtesy to people that are trying to be helpful to us.

[Yinnyth]

The difference is that nobody is interrupting your game by complaining about it on a forum which was created specifically to receive feedback from the players.

There was also this guy who yelled in Jeuno the other night "Everyone who plays this game is a mother f-" and I shouldn't repeat the next six words because they would most likely get me banned from these forums.

People hate... and I mean HATE this game and/or SE themselves yet still play this game, and it's baffling. I shouldn't be surprised though, that's what video game forums breed. Ever seen the Diablo 3 game forums? Back in its hayday there was a new post every minute, and 90% of them bashed game balance, claimed the story sucked, and/or contained personal attacks on the game devs themselves. The other 10% consisted mostly of people claiming they can prove the existence of God. Compared to those forums, the people here are saints.

But I still think it should be mandatory for everyone to work customer service for an entire year of their life so they can learn what it's like to deal with people who believe they're entitled to better service than the company can possibly afford.

[Xerius]

People hate... and I mean HATE this game and/or SE themselves yet still play this game, and it's baffling. I shouldn't be surprised though, that's what video game forums breed.

People don't hate the game or Square Enix. What people hate is the fact that the game isn't followed their envisioned path that it would take and I agree beforehand that, that ideology is completely irrational but the game is obviously on the decline and people hate seeing a game they love, in their eyes, die.

[Yinnyth]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that all people hate the game, nor did I mean to imply that everyone who criticises the game hates it. I mean that there are some people who hate the game.

You are correct about the majority of the people posting about these topics, and I was wrong. They're merely venting frustrations that things are not the way they want them to be, which is understandable. And you are correct, the game is on the decline. Every year fewer people play. Every year FFXI makes less money. This is likely part of the reason SE can't follow through on their visions for the future.

But I highly doubt they're doing this just to upset the playerbase. Their greatest crime would be incompetence, which isn't a crime, it's a condition.

And I know for a fact that angry criticisms and claiming you're quitting the game is as effective as talking LOUDER AND SLOWER to someone who doesn't speak English. You're not making things any better. In fact, your making them worse by inciting other people to join in. "Why yes! I too am also upset at these facts! /like" It's bad publicity for the game, so new players and prospective players get the feeling that there's nothing worth playing for. It reaffirms other peoples beliefs that the game is no longer worth playing. It's speeding the demise of the game to act like this.

If you really like the game, and you really want to slow its death knell, find some good things to say about it. Like some posts that highlight its good aspects. Like the posts the reps put up, even if it's disappointing news. Attempt to be courteous, even to people who do not deserve it, or these forums become a caustic environment.

It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but it's better than ruining the thing you love faster.

[Xerius]

I couldn't agree more, honestly. People in general, seem to have a problem with confusing constructive feedback and destructive one-sided rants that are more filled with opinions than actual evidence for problems. These pseudo-discussions inevitably devolve into poo-flinging rants in which has little-to-nothing to do with the topic at hand and more to do with people telling each other they're more awful at the game than they are, in some sort of desperate attempt to hang on to credibility and then when a "hate post" gets deleted by a Dev, they go all "Conspiracy Mode Activated" and see it as some sort of provocation from the development team. Instead of realizing that they went too far.