This is a Mythic thread.

[Kincard]

Personally I think instead of making Mythics easier to get, they should just make them stronger (And fix the stupid ones like you mentioned, NIN/RDM/SCH/etc). I (And many other players) rather like the idea of having trophy items in the game and Mythics are almost the only thing left in the game that qualify aside from Afterglows, which has a grand total of like, 5 owners (I can think of 3)? Maybe if Afterglows wern't so absurdly difficult to obtain it wouldn't be such a big deal.

For the record, Mythic is the best weapon for DNC, and given PLD's actual function currently in high-end stuff usually the best weapon for them. In certain situations its the best for MNK and absorbing 60 AGI/VIT off a monster with Liberator is something nothing else can do.

Ultimately complaints about the difficulty of mythics usually is actually just "I want mythics to be easier so I can play PUP/DRG/SMN more often" when the problem has always been with the design of those jobs themselves. If they made these jobs not be totally useless unless they had a Ryunohige/whatever this wouldn't be such a big deal and you know it.

[Demon6324236]

Personally I think instead of making Mythics easier to get, they should just make them stronger (And fix the stupid ones like you mentioned, NIN/RDM/SCH/etc). I (And many other players) rather like the idea of having trophy items in the game and Mythics are almost the only thing left in the game that qualify aside from Afterglows, which has a grand total of like, 5 owners (I can think of 3)? Maybe if Afterglows wern't so absurdly difficult to obtain it wouldn't be such a big deal.

Perhaps they should alter the requirements of Afterglows then so they are more appropriate trophy items that are easier to obtain, so that Mythics can be made easier without people wanting trophies to have to condemn Mythics? Afterglows are worthless as they are and serve as nothing more than trophies anyways, so to keep Mythics that way seems a bit wrong, if you want a trophy you know where the real challenge is, you even said you like that type of thing yourself, so you should be all over an afterglow for your Kannagi or Relic Katana.

For the record, Mythic is the best weapon for DNC, and given PLD's actual function currently in high-end stuff usually the best weapon for them. In certain situations its the best for MNK and absorbing 60 AGI/VIT off a monster with Liberator is something nothing else can do.

DNC I did not know for sure but I was fairly sure that Twashtar was better for it. PLD I admit Burtgang is the best sword in optimum gear. I could have sworn the MNK one was worse than both Relic and Emp H2H in nearly all cases, and Liberator only has that single use, another piece like Yagrush, in this cases where you would put it on at the start of a fight, wipe your TP, throw out a spell, and then change back to Rag for the actual fight. But ok, more Mythics are actually good or the best for the job.

Ultimately complaints about the difficulty of mythics usually is actually just "I want mythics to be easier so I can play PUP/DRG/SMN more often" when the problem has always been with the design of those jobs themselves. If they made these jobs not be totally useless unless they had a Ryunohige/whatever this wouldn't be such a big deal and you know it.

Well that depends on the point of view of the poster. I admit my reasons are because I want a Burtgang for my PLD character, my GF bugs me to no end to make her a Nirvana even though she is a SMN who does not use any gear swaps and refuses to under any circumstances, and the fact I want a RDM Mythic for my main character because I want to be the best RDM there is. Burtgang is actually somewhat worth my time right now, the weapon is actually good as you said, so it makes sense to make it. Nirvana in the hands of my GF is worthless because she does not play the game in a way that she can make real use of it, and she will not leave me alone about it when we are on the game, so I would rather waste less of my time on this weapon than I will need to right now. My RDM Mythic is worthless, I know it is worthless, it has two uses in the entire game for me, which is Convert and Enfeebling, neither of which are worth the investment. Do I want these for trophies? No, the only one that could be compared to that is my RDM Mythic due to its limited practical use, the others are for real use, I want these weapons to use them, but thanks to these high requirements I will likely never have them because they are simply not worth the effort compared to their counterparts.



Ill be perfectly honest, I give up arguing my ideals on Mythics, its a waste of my time. Everyone who wants them to be trophy items are already set on what they think they should be and will not change their minds. No matter the difference between them and the other weapons. You said your amazed people still complain after all of this, I'm surprised people can not see the problem still. When Mythics require only 5000 Alex, and the total price is only 70Mil, maybe it will be acceptable, because the work outside of the cost will be fair. Till a time the work is similar between the two I think they are unbalanced and should be changed on their requirements to bring them more in line with the others of their level.

[Taint2]

For the record, Mythic is the best weapon for DNC, and given PLD's actual function currently in high-end stuff usually the best weapon for them. In certain situations its the best for MNK and absorbing 60 AGI/VIT off a monster with Liberator is something nothing else can do.

I agree with most of your post, but I always hate the Liberator absorb arguement. Absorbing 60 (Lib) instead of 40 (any DRK) is not going to be a game changer on anything. Even on tier3+ Mul mobs that 20agi/vit etc isn't doing anything.