This is a Mythic thread.

[Demon6324236]

If you have done Nyzul or Einherjar a million times already, shouldn't you have all the ampoules/tokens you need or at least be well in to the requirement?

Let me sum something up about that real quick. If I did nothing but T3 Einherjar for 1920 Ichor a run, I would have to do it 53 times to get enough for a single Mythic. Myself, I do not like old Einherjar, its rather dull and boring because there is no challenge. So for me to get this, it is not fun, rather it is more than 50 dull runs of the same thing over and over again that I do not actually like doing. No one will or could have possibly done Einherjar 1,000,000 times, no one could have done it even 10,000 times if you did it every time possible since it was released. It was an obvious inflation of numbers. I think the point was that once you do all of that annoying side work, you may not want to do it again, and if you did not enjoy it the first time, who can blame you for not wanting to do another round of it. I myself agree, if I make a Mythic like I want to I will be doing all of the prereqs together with my GF and my second character at the same time, we will all get the points and wins together so that we can each get our Mythic and never have to do any of the prereqs again except for the Alexandrites.

Shot Form:It was a number exaggeration, if you do all of the stuff for a Mythic once, chances are you are not going to wanna do it all again.

[Zhronne]

Wait wat? I thought the second time you do a Mythic you didn't have to re-do the following steps:
1) Getting titles from Salvage bosses, Odin and 3 ToAU megabosses
2) Getting Captain

But you only had to re-do the rest. So the Einherjar R/E, the NI R/E, the 5 Assault Books and the 30k Alex.
Are you sure you need to re-do even those 2 steps I linked above? Sounds really stupid.

[Byrth]

No, you don't have to re-do any of the first quest (beyond turning in the weapon).

[Raksha]

If you have done Nyzul or Einherjar a million times already, shouldn't you have all the ampoules/tokens you need or at least be well in to the requirement?

I have the ichor, but since i despise nyzul I got my shit and got out as quickly as possible. never did assaults or salvage because most of the gear was trash, or my jobs at the time (SCH and DNC mostly) couldnt use them.

Now i'm in the position where I can dual box but dont like having to find a 3rd person to drag in with me. Thats even assuming that I wanted to waste all that time farming alexandrite. After doing a shitload of dynamis for my relic the last thing i want to do at this point is grind more currency.

[detlef]

Despite the "spam t3 Einherjar over and over" example above, many people who didn't blow all their ampoules on rubber harnesses already have finished or are close to finishing the ampoules requirement. Odin was 2880 ampoules, after all. People have had years to do Einherjar. As for Nyzul, unless you lost a lot (and broke even on tokens), you should have a good start. Maybe a good start is only 20k tokens or maybe it's 50k. 5k tokens per run is very reasonable with even 1 other person and a mule.

Regarding assault, that content is actually varied. Many are quick kills at 99, while others offer content with unique mechanics that you can't experience anywhere else in the game. I don't think the repetitive content statement holds up for these. A lot of the PSC and PFC assaults were pretty bad though, you're right about that, so if you got in and got out really quickly you only experienced the annoying ones.

As for Salvage? Sorry but you're stuck with that. If you aren't willing to grind alexandrite, why should you get a mythic? You're not even complaining about the amount, you're just complaining that you have to do it. Also, look how far we've come from the old days of linkshells farming relics when we complain that mythics are annoying because they require another person.

Are we complaining that new players who missed out on all the ToAU content have to jump through too many hoops? Or are we just complaining about the amount of alexandrite needed? The alexandrite gripe is legitimate, but the requirement is easier than ever due to neo-salvage. However, after seeing some of the SoA armor stats, I'd worry about the long term future of the event.

[Mittenz]

Let me sum something up about that real quick. If I did nothing but T3 Einherjar for 1920 Ichor a run, I would have to do it 53 times to get enough for a single Mythic. Myself, I do not like old Einherjar, its rather dull and boring because there is no challenge. So for me to get this, it is not fun, rather it is more than 50 dull runs of the same thing over and over again that I do not actually like doing. No one will or could have possibly done Einherjar 1,000,000 times, no one could have done it even 10,000 times if you did it every time possible since it was released. It was an obvious inflation of numbers. I think the point was that once you do all of that annoying side work, you may not want to do it again, and if you did not enjoy it the first time, who can blame you for not wanting to do another round of it. I myself agree, if I make a Mythic like I want to I will be doing all of the prereqs together with my GF and my second character at the same time, we will all get the points and wins together so that we can each get our Mythic and never have to do any of the prereqs again except for the Alexandrites.

Shot Form:It was a number exaggeration, if you do all of the stuff for a Mythic once, chances are you are not going to wanna do it all again.

I wouldn't say it's really bad I am on mythic 3 (assaults round 4 gooooo) less annoyance than sitting waiting for weather for 3hrs then have it last 10s and it's better than watching yells in jueno.

[Raksha]

Despite the "spam t3 Einherjar over and over" example above, many people who didn't blow all their ampoules on rubber harnesses already have finished or are close to finishing the ampoules requirement. Odin was 2880 ampoules, after all. People have had years to do Einherjar. As for Nyzul, unless you lost a lot (and broke even on tokens), you should have a good start. Maybe a good start is only 20k tokens or maybe it's 50k. 5k tokens per run is very reasonable with even 1 other person and a mule.

Regarding assault, that content is actually varied. Many are quick kills at 99, while others offer content with unique mechanics that you can't experience anywhere else in the game. I don't think the repetitive content statement holds up for these. A lot of the PSC and PFC assaults were pretty bad though, you're right about that, so if you got in and got out really quickly you only experienced the annoying ones.

As for Salvage? Sorry but you're stuck with that. If you aren't willing to grind alexandrite, why should you get a mythic? You're not even complaining about the amount, you're just complaining that you have to do it. Also, look how far we've come from the old days of linkshells farming relics when we complain that mythics are annoying because they require another person.

Are we complaining that new players who missed out on all the ToAU content have to jump through too many hoops? Or are we just complaining about the amount of alexandrite needed? The alexandrite gripe is legitimate, but the requirement is easier than ever due to neo-salvage. However, after seeing some of the SoA armor stats, I'd worry about the long term future of the event.

The only job I would want a mythic for anyway is SCH, and Tupsimati is shit. So I'm not crying over it. I dont mind farming alexandrite on principle if I could do it dual box like I did dynamis.

Nyzul is kind of a deal breaker for me personally. I really hate it.

[detlef]

The only job I would want a mythic for anyway is SCH, and Tupsimati is shit. So I'm not crying over it. I dont mind farming alexandrite on principle if I could do it dual box like I did dynamis.

Nyzul is kind of a deal breaker for me personally. I really hate it.

Okay I hear ya, sorry your mythic is so bad. Dunno what SE was thinking there.

[Fynlar]

They've already made Mythics much easier to obtain. Neo Salvage spews out Alex whether or not you're aiming to farm it.

You must have a vastly different definition of "spews out" than the rest of us. Yes, it is higher on average than NQ Salvage, but not really by a whole lot.

The supply on alex is getting better because HQ Salvage is actually a reasonable event in which people can make marked progress toward the gear they want on each run (in the form of plans) and therefore people are actually bothering to do it. Despite that though, the supply per run is still not anything I would call extraordinary.

[Obysuca]

The supply on alex is getting better because HQ Salvage is actually a reasonable event in which people can make marked progress toward the gear they want on each run (in the form of plans) and therefore people are actually bothering to do it. Despite that though, the supply per run is still not anything I would call extraordinary.

Until SoA completely obsoletes the gear with purchasable ones.