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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.
    By creating a thread that purports one side of an issue and actively excludes opposing views, while a thread exists that shows the discussion around the issue, both for and against, appears to be an attempt to portray that your view is the popular view. It happens all the time in politics. And is usually started by the side that is not the more popular one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase View Post
    No thats why you post questions to the devs and they give answers. sorry thought it was pretty clear that comment
    That make over 280 post now, and you see any DEV saying new post? What you wan DEV explain when is already clear enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    That make over 280 post now, and you see any DEV saying new post? What you wan DEV explain when is already clear enough.
    Maybe that is because it is a weekend ? Also what is clear ? How do we know the limit has not been increased ? How do we know that they are not going to make multiple instanced areas for each zone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icestein View Post
    You know something? If Square enix waiver because some people have dissented I will lose a lot of respect for them. I might quit, because I will have seen that a few vocal people opposed to something can veto an entire change that they know very little about.
    This is exactly why I made the other thread, and exactly why I post on these forums. Someone has to be around to bash down ideas that are entirely and outrageously stupid and a waste of development time, energy and money.

    And to ensure nobody tries to put words in my mouth, no I do not think I'm the end all, be all of judgment as what is and is not stupid. Or that all decisions should be up to me or be under the fire of my scrutiny. I'm just trying to provide some aspect of a "voice of reason", and I know there's others posting on this forum who feel the same.

    I'm not trying to change things, just make sure that the Ilax's, Krystal's and Starcade's of this forum don't get their way either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randwolf View Post
    By creating a thread that purports one side of an issue and actively excludes opposing views, while a thread exists that shows the discussion around the issue, both for and against, appears to be an attempt to portray that your view is the popular view. It happens all the time in politics. And is usually started by the side that is not the more popular one.
    I don't know why you put politic into this, SE monthly fee is not a TAX that i have to pay. Is my right to play it or not. Is not because this update make you happy that is going to make me happy.

    But there a logic here, you where still playing before this update, and you will still play. Who say i will do same? Is not because SE would cancel this update that they can't make another one that would make me and you happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase View Post
    Reservations will no longer be required to enter the above areas.
    Is the main part that i am worry. please read and highlight the right part of my issue.
    You never answered my question, what do you think this means?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase View Post
    Maybe that is because it is a weekend ? Also what is clear ? How do we know the limit has not been increased ? How do we know that they are not going to make multiple instanced areas for each zone?
    Wow the only real good point so far. Would be great, do i think they will, not at all due to server cost.

    Please DEV tell me if you plan instance it or NOT. Apparently some are still confuse by:

    *Reservations will no longer be required to enter the above areas.

    Do it mean the zone going to be 'open to everyone to enter in your event'

    or

    Going to be multiple instance where 10 group can do Dynamis - Sandy at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    But there a logic here, you where still playing before this update, and you will still play. Who say i will do same? Is not because SE would cancel this update that they can't make another one that would make me and you happy.
    Let's scrap everything they've worked for because you are unhappy? No. I'd rather not have all that money and time wasted. You say you might quit if they implement changes that you do not like? I've already matched that; if Square decide against the dynamis changes, or revert and alter some aspects of Abyssea based on the vocal whims of this forums idiots then I will quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    I don't know why you put politic into this, SE monthly fee is not a TAX that i have to pay. Is my right to play it or not. Is not because this update make you happy that is going to make me happy.
    Which is exactly why there was no need to post up the first petition. This thread had both sides. As far as politics, a petition is a political move. It attempts to encourage people in power, in this case S/E, to agree with your side of an issue by saying your numbers are greater than the opposing view and thus your view is the correct view.

    You also make the faulty assumption that people will not be dissatisfied with S/E for going back on the Dynamis update and also might quit.
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  10. #290
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    @Fiarlia:

    Company decision 2009 60% happy 40% unhappy, 100,000 player turned into 60,000...
    Company decision 2010 60% happy 40% unhappy, 60,000 player turned into 36,000...

    see a picture?

    Your petition about positive impact should have been done about who not playing the game, not who is playing the game.. you 1 very ignorant or 2 very having fun tolling me.
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