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  1. #101
    Player Icestein's Avatar
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    I know from the translation it sounds like it'll remain the same as it currently is, however, I think this is just a case of bad translation. The Japanese version makes it sound as if it will be party loot, which would make sense considering the force popping of NMs.

    "Normal" might just refer to outside mechanics. We can hope.
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  2. #102
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    The ls i run with lots all the currency and sells it back to the upgraders in the shell for the cost of the run so those of us who are not upgrading do not pay for runs. It would ruin good honorable shells like mine to make them nontradeable. BTW yes big groups still exist for Dyna sadly if things are how they sound we are the ones who will get the shaft.
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  3. #103
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    Yeah the word "normal" scares me. Dyna had a different "normal" than anywhere else for loot.
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  4. #104
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    The Japanese text translates as follows:


    * The exclusive right of monsters and loot
    Will be treated the same as normal field.
    I think you'll conspicuous imagine the same format as it captures Abisea.

    If it is Walk of the Echoes style, not only will Square enix have failed to make old content relevant, but will have proven that these forums are merely superficial. The last sentence referencing abyssea makes me think it won't be, though.
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  5. #105
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    Thanks that was more clear. Still sucks though because large LSs like the one I belong to will be screwed over but the daily change may shrink our numbers anyway so we will see how it goes.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's not a scam. everyone else is getting a pile of free equipment for their trouble.
    Getting a pile of garbage equipment for 7 hours a week while leaders get millions of gil worth of currency. Enjoy your pile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    What it IS, is the only way to complete a relic in a reasonable time frame.
    I'm pretty sure a person sitting on a pile of gil could buy all the currency faster than he could get a linkshell to farm it up for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    That just wrong, none of our sponsor are allowed to SELL currency to get richer.
    That's not the point. Whether you're selling the currency or keeping it for yourself, your net worth is going up by the same amount. Based on prices of currency, what's the average cost of a relic these days? 150mil-ish? Whether the person sells the currency or makes the 150mil weapon himself, he's still 150mil richer.

    Let's look at it a different way, let's say you farm 5mil worth of currency off a run and the leader drops it all. That's 5mil currency that's not going into everyone else's pockets.

    So whether they keep it, sell it, drop it, it doesn't matter. It's capital that the leader keeps for themselves, when they are only contributing a small amount of the work required to obtain it. You can argue about this till you're blue in the face, but the simple fact is that it's just not fair.
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  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    Lots of stuff...
    Well, sorry, english is not my native language, so my vocabulary is lacking but the idea is there.

    Why hating on other peoples having the things you have easier than how you got them? its not like they are taking the stuff away from you... and you can still get more stuff with your hard dedication and skill

    And yeah, I concur that is very sad to see people not being able to do their job properly, but I dont think that noobish plage will last much when the game hits balance again after all these updates...

    Take it like, you, an expert on the job or something are like the first wave of japanese players back when FF launched, when it hitted US, all the US were noobs, and what? do the Japanese hate you all for being noobs?? well maybe dunno, some one probably opened a forum with a topic like "US players ruining the gamezor!!11!!" but it eventually hitted a balance and the good elite players remaining being good and a bunch of noobs became great players or changed jobs, or leave the game etc... The level cap and the adjustments and the gear is changing, the way to play de game too, so, sit back and go do other suff if you cant stand seeing people like the examples you put, I dont botter, cuz I know taht not averyone is going to be good "as soon as they hit 90"

    I completly understand the feeling of time wasted as I was in a Dyna LS myself and till i left I even didnt finished a set of relic, spending hours to end but I dont complain, I ENJOYED those hours, if it were "work" and "tedious" for you, then you were doing something wrong not having fun in the ride. Well of course I didnt wasted years in the LS I was busy enoug trying to reack 75 on SMN back when there wasnt even distinction between bloodpact rage/ward

    Focusing... Sh1t happens, and its a shame those hours on end were "wasted", but as I said its not time wasted if you enjoyed the ride, and if you didnt... well I really used the word Masochist wrong, and clearly it was just work for you.

    Maybe the word is.... elitist? egoist? or just plain cranky and bitter with everyone getting your same pair of shoes on sale now that they are an old model and you still got them when they cost half your monthly income... go get a new set then, its on sale!!!
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  8. #108
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    It might sound not fair just because you see it as money maker when is obviously not, as i stated that could be 500k glass to collect rare/ex currency. If you look how not fair it is because someone spend gil to get currency while other collect AF for free then again you missed the point, I agree now the gear is garbage, but there still people doing dynamis just for the fun of helping a friend for his relic weapon (and is still 500k cost).

    I can see what you involve into you idea, every member should have a share of the currency and Mr. I Buy Gil (or let say BOB) should buy it from your LS member for 6x the real cost right? 500k Glass = 350 currency average, 500k/350 = 1.5k each... how much Ordel sell again? ~12k (just 10x the price nto too bad.... orz) You guy derailed with dynamis...
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    Quote Originally Posted by azjazo View Post
    Maybe the word is.... elitist? egoist? or just plain cranky and bitter with everyone getting your same pair of shoes on sale now that they are an old model and you still got them when they cost half your monthly income... go get a new set then, its on sale!!!

    ... again you derail. But you funny none the less.
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  10. #110
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    It isn't fair. Buttering it up by talking about how your linkshell does things and how all your friends do it to help eachother (which, btw, I have trouble believing because I do not sincerely believe you represent the thoughts of everybody in your linkshell) does not change the fact that there exists a monumental difference in rewards between the players who are obtaining currency and the players are not. You probably would view things differently if you weren't ever one of those people. I think you might take it well to think over something you said earlier in the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Illax
    Was just pointing how in general everyone like to complain about everything to have the best world for they self, and careless about other.
    You're voicing complaints over the changing of a system that is absurdly unfair and that most people didn't like anyways simply because you like it. Sounds like you don't care about what the majority of players think.
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