[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[GERM]

If this is the end of Dynamis, I'll be glad for this reason alone. Never was an event so monopolized to make 1 individual rich on the backs of everyone else's work. Shame on me for doing that event as long as I did....

spending 500k (was 1m) per run and making gil off this was not a monopoly if you wanted to upgrade relics this was a must and now its a reduced entry time and hopefully a increased currency output for quicker upgrades. I will one day have to achieve this and I hope my shell keeps doing it despite what is to come, problem is if they reduce drops to alliance/party then a lot of people are going to get screwed in the long run from shells since there are still a limited amount of people that can be in an alliance and sometimes memebers participation exceeds 18 people..

[kaht]

spending 500k (was 1m) per run and making gil off this was not a monopoly

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/monopoly

exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market

Although a ls leader keeping all the currency for themselves could be loosely defined as an "exclusive control of a commodity in a particular market", I'll agree with you that it's probably not strictly defined as a monopoly. It's still a BS system and a complete scam over all the other members of a ls that are doing equal parts work for little, to no reward for their effort.

As I stated above, most relic armor drops are near useless so what incentive does a linkshell member have to show up and farm a person his relic weapon for him?

I'll assume you're of legal age to hold a job. Would you go to work every day to make your company lots of money if they paid you with peanuts?

And regarding your comment that hosting linkshell runs to keep all the currency for yourself is the only way to build a relic weapon - there are plenty of people over the years that have built relic weapons by simply making money doing non-dynamis related content, and purchasing all the coins. There are linkshells out there that split the currency with their members to sell, and coins that drop in union pools - somebody is out there buying these coins.

[Ilax]

I roll my eyes every time I see someone pointing the "easy" way the game is becoming and its starting to hurt my eyes.

And making relics easy to get is not making "mr lazy" on the top, cuz the top has just been raised, and it will further be reaised once we get to 99, so the "mr masochist" can still grind the hell out of the new fancy e-peen enhanching gear it will be abalible or if they love their relics so much, SE is going to (and already has) provide ways to upgrade said gear to the point it will rival the newer sets, let people lazy their way to the "NQ relic" and you can work for the HQ instead...

You amusing me when you calling hardcore player 'masochist', seriously if we not happy we just going to look for something else, it call a challenge my friend, obviously you have no clue what that word mean, that explain how you end to use the word 'e-peen' again me. I never cared about my mandau, if you would know me better, my search comment in FFXI for last 2 YR say: MANDAU IS A DA$N GA$BAG$. So ya before thinking it just make me feel better then anyone else, do more research. You mix up everything, also when you say:

if they love their relics so much, SE is going to (and already has) provide ways to upgrade said gear to the point it will rival the newer sets

Having an option to upgrade relic weapon, and having SE turn what took us 2yr to accomplish now possible to finish in 2 month is huh... different story.... Destroying an even that still have people loving to do even after 7yr just because mr.lazy was not loving the even from base is again .... Like i said, is not like SE did not gave alternative to dynamis gear/relic, And before reborn dynamis, why not reborn Sky, Sea, Campaign and so much more where clearly no one care anymore? No one even love that much WoE, why not issue that first instead?

And just a reminder for your love of the 'too easy' game mode, back in the time when people was looking at someone with maat cap, they was amaze about the work, everyone now can get a maat cap, even the noobest player in FFXI that freshly joined FFXI can do it in 1 month. So ya, don't expect same respect because now is nothing exceptional anymore.

Is same story as Real Life, you can have a 150,000$ house or a 1,500,000$ house, that change zip nothing outside be proud of your success, again there always hater to say how you cheated everyone to get what you have, that parts never going to change (In game or in RL).

Hint, as far i know, most are scared by the communist and strongly think capitalist is the best system in the world, but these same people are crying of the injustice about how some have more then other, choose your side, and stop complaining. (Not arguing about what system is the best, capitalist or communist imo are both the same, just different way to work around, none are perfect and of course can be handle the wrong way, so please don't derail with this part, not opening a door of discussion for political/doctrine issue.) Was just pointing how in general everyone like to complain about everything to have the best world for they self, and careless about other.

On side note, i never looked at anyone gear, that part never made me care, same as in RL i never look if the the grass of my neighbor is more green then mine. Anyone that know me on fenrir know i never look at they gear, ive been leader for 6yr long, and anyone can tell you they had to ask me: Ilax /check me, look what i got. Because i never look at them, not even to my friend, the only one i like to check in game is* Ext, but that another story line...

The only part that always frustrated me is when i see stupid thing like a RDM with Duelist's chapeau doing his enf. magic with Vermillion Cloak or a BLM trying to sleep monster with his super MAB setup and i can point more... Outside that, i really don't care, i saw way too many skilled player with poor gear doing 100x better. Of course, who have the best gear can mean they have lots of experience and they know how to play they job, but hey, that was not even close to be true for 8yr long, and for sure you can expect that be even more false now.

Is SE choice to do what they want and is my choice to play the game or not, so yes, am just waiting to see how it is, like i said this sound scary idea to me (to not say real bad idea).

Anyway, think there enough said here.

[kaht]

Here is some additional info!

* Monster claim and item drops will work as usual.

Kinda makes it sound like drops will go into a universal pool. Yay WoE2

[Alhanelem]

But, I'm still remaining hopeful that this isn't going to be like WoE, and more-so instanced like Salvage or something. Really hope. D:

It's not going to be instanced. But given that SE is revamping WoE, I extremely doubt they would be keeping the global loot pool. Why is everyone assuming this is going to turn into walk of echoes, especially when walk of echoes itself is also being revamped?

But, I'm still remaining hopeful that this isn't going to be like WoE, and more-so instanced like Salvage or something. Really hope. D:

It's not a scam. everyone else is getting a pile of free equipment for their trouble. What it IS, is the only way to complete a relic in a reasonable time frame.The only reason anoyne see this as a scam is because of the price currency goes for (which IS a scam because it's way higher than it should be, and WAY WAY higher than it will hopefully be when dynamis cost is reduced even further and made more accessible). However, with the Mythic and Empyrean weapons, which mostly only cost time (no one sells alexandrite anymore), Relics cost lots of time plus gil. Any attempt to defray that cost should not be seen as a scam, especially because the relics aren't even superior to weapons that are cheap as free.

Kinda makes it sound like drops will go into a universal pool. Yay WoE2

No, it's not WoE2:

* The exclusive right of monsters and loot
Will be treated the same as normal field.
I think you'll conspicuous imagine the same format as it captures Abisea.

"The same as normal field" meaning normal field areas e.g. any regular area of the game and the second line basically says "similar to abyssea."

[Whitewing]

Here is some additional info!

* Monster claim and item drops will work as usual.


Treasure:

* There are no plans to change the drop rate of Relic equipment.
* Along with the reduction of the entry time restriction, the amount of Ancient Currency earned per session will be lowered. Overall, this change should increase the Ancient Currency distributed across the World.

so either this confirms the drop pool will stay the same or it will be the same as non dynamis areas really thing SE need to make this clearer.

this also now forces LS's to either do more dynamis for the same currency rate or take longer to get a relic personally i think this change is gonna kill dynamis off.

[Ilax]

As I stated above, most relic armor drops are near useless so what incentive does a linkshell member have to show up and farm a person his relic weapon for him?

How about some do it just for the fun to help a friend? Some in the game are more respected then other, and there multi reason about it, i personally still help in dynamis (even if that make 3yr i don't need anything including relic weapon) Why you think? just because i have nothing anymore to win i should turn my back to everyone that supported me in that LS, no way... I also don't do it because i feel forced to do it, but more because we have fun and our linkshell are close friend for several yr now.

That the problem of everyone, they only help if they win something. (Can't blame the logic of this, but this don't apply anymore if you find the right LS)

[Alhanelem]

People usually only do dynamis in small groups now. It's not a ridiculous notion to have a group of friends that are willing to help make a relic.

[Dubberrucky]

Maybe i missed it somewhere in the posts but is SE implying that you can just enter Dyna randomly with other random people? If so this is going to just be a disaster we will have a bunch of random people just standing at the entrance to lot other peoples work.

Also they did not seem to mention dream zones whats the rumor mill on those will they be the same?

[Ilax]

Big deal... When you're making AT LEAST double that in currency drops, that 1-2m a week seems like a pretty insubstantial cost. When all those leaders have to do is purchase a glass and show up 2 times a week, they are getting rich on the backs of everyone else.

That just wrong, none of our sponsor are allowed to SELL currency to get richer. I don't support that kinda of activity, is why we always been super selective on who sponsor, of course we not selecting Mr. bob, just because he rich, you get the whole thing wrong. No one will ever sponsor our dynamis with less then 1yr exp with us, they also loose all point they had accumulated, they have to show us a minimum of 26M, and they have to be respected in the LS and they can't already have in possession a relic weapon.

It amuse me when people say how sponsor enrich they self with dynamis, tbh SE should do an update in dynamis and make currency not possible to sell/trade, so in the end only legit LS like our would stay alive, and all the Mr. Money maker LS would vanish, and no more player buying GIL from RMT to buy currency from Mr. Money maker.