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  1. #691
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    if it is not in abyssea people will not help you, not even for 10 mins
    I got 6 other people to do ballista for 2 hours, and there is no reward for that whatsoever. And it's not in abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    exactly, you don't know, stop acting like you know me or my motivation
    Actualy after reading your hundreds of posts on relic and dynamis. I can safely say what your motivations have been. Most have been rather self centered and greedy under the guise of other things. Change happens, most people are very happy that the zone will be open and I will be happy to be there to help them get their items. It in no way cheapens any previous self accomplishment of mine previously either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    NO! people do not want to "waste their time"

    if it is not in abyssea people will not help you, not even for 10 mins
    Well I have to tell you that this is not the issue on other servers from what I've seen. You seem to be over exagerating personal experiences.
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    I think Rambus is referring too the general mindset of the populace "Whats in it for me." Most people won't try to help others without some sort of incentive, and when it comes to doing Dynamis runs most won't attempt to come unless they need/want Relic gear/synth mats from the zone. Why you may ask, because drops are rare and those running the group usually reserves all the relic currency for themselves leaving the helpers with a big chance of getting nothing.

    Abyssea on the other hand is significantly different in this aspect, even IF your not after an Emp. Weapon most NM's drop other things you might be able to use, giving players a bigger incentive to stay and camp the hell out of these NM's.

    After the update Dynamis drops would not likely change much, except that you would get alot more small groups and soloers going in to try and make some money off currency. What I think Rambus is afraid of is EVERYONE and their momma will be camping the NM's religiously for a chance for 100 pieces and potentially/greedily block their chances at killing the needed NM's for their Relic/Mythic upgrades. Changing the level of the mobs to 90-99, however would keep alot of people from doing this as easily, because many people are horribly underskilled from Abyssea and won't have their precious Atmas to make them into Demi-gods.
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  4. #694
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swords View Post
    I think Rambus is referring too the general mindset of the populace "Whats in it for me." Most people won't try to help others without some sort of incentive, and when it comes to doing Dynamis runs most won't attempt to come unless they need/want Relic gear/synth mats from the zone. Why you may ask, because drops are rare and those running the group usually reserves all the relic currency for themselves leaving the helpers with a big chance of getting nothing.

    Abyssea on the other hand is significantly different in this aspect, even IF your not after an Emp. Weapon most NM's drop other things you might be able to use, giving players a bigger incentive to stay and camp the hell out of these NM's.

    After the update Dynamis drops would not likely change much, except that you would get alot more small groups and soloers going in to try and make some money off currency. What I think Rambus is afraid of is EVERYONE and their momma will be camping the NM's religiously for a chance for 100 pieces and potentially/greedily block their chances at killing the needed NM's for their Relic/Mythic upgrades. Changing the level of the mobs to 90-99, however would keep alot of people from doing this as easily, because many people are horribly underskilled from Abyssea and won't have their precious Atmas to make them into Demi-gods.
    lest someone understands, ill add some insight with the mythic thing

    to get a mythic you have to kill those ATU gods/leaders ( w/e you call them) that is what taint was asking for help on that could not get help because of the "what is in it for me" also for mythic trail you have to kill ZNM t4? ( one before PW) 3 times if i understand the name right.

    can't really do that solo and people do not want to help with ether.

    the problems that i hear people saying about trying to get mythic now tells me people are abyssea only and will not help with stuff that is not abyssea only. I personally experence this as well. I had to bug some really old friends to help on a few ZNM i could not solo on blu ( i suck at soloing).

    People do not do mythic contant ( assult, savage, nyzul, ein) because it is a "waste of time" there is "nothing in it for me" these dyna changes will not change that for dyna unless something is spamable for 100s then you have the issue of overcamp.

    ballista not asking for help. I even shout before to ask people to do test a few things about the game ( like nuking level 1 mobs so i can find impact formula) I had to bug someone I knew after i found out though soloing this siad friend had one.

    My statement does not relfect it is for me. I do not profit of dyna, I do not care to. How is asking SE to make dyna more appealing 90/99 have selfish reasons? because i want to give people reason to do it so i am not stuck in abyssea only?

    you are really twisted.

    this update will cause nothing but problems if anything drops 100s
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    Last edited by Rambus; 04-02-2011 at 03:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post
    lest someone understands, ill add some insight with the mythic thing
    I dunno if I should be proud or scared I was able to translate Rambunese.
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    I had another thought.. It would be nice if you could warp to the dynamis start points like you can with abyssea...

    I mean the npc that gives you the "Hour Glass Key item" or recharges it could also warp you to the hieroglyphics.

    Please devs.. would be super awesome of you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    Yeah I honestly think they should have upped the currency drop rates not lowered them - make relics easier to get so that people who got them five years ago can stop complaining that they are not the best anymore.
    You really think turning relics into trash items is going to make relic holders complain LESS?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambus View Post

    People do not do mythic contant ( assult, savage, nyzul, ein) because it is a "waste of time" there is "nothing in it for me"


    Or maybe because there's only one mythic that doesn't suck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe View Post
    Or maybe because there's only one mythic that doesn't suck?
    Yah.. aymur or gtfo >:U
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin View Post
    Of course your not.. they don't drop a ton of currency to sell >_>
    ... so you blaming me to sell currency when i said at least 15 time i don't and how i found this retard for those LS that sell currency? Seriously stop posting garbage is getting real stupid, to me you just sound like a hater, but w/e again this post is a pure waste of time for me as for who read it.
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