[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[kaht]

the currency for the leaders relics

If this is the end of Dynamis, I'll be glad for this reason alone. Never was an event so monopolized to make 1 individual rich on the backs of everyone else's work. Shame on me for doing that event as long as I did....

[Ilax]

If this is the end of Dynamis, I'll be glad for this reason alone. Never was an event so monopolized to make 1 individual rich on the backs of everyone else's work. Shame on me for doing that event as long as I did....

That the thing, maybe you been in wrong ls idk, in our ls out of 5yr long, none of the sponsor was able to lot on any AF because they was sponsoring, it always been fair enough for who did enter in my dynamis ls and won they AFv2 (free) while sponsor spended 2m / week and 1m/week after SE drop glass to 500k. We all don't know how Dynamis V2 gonna look like, and i am sure the same player will find a way to exploit everyone as usual. You can already see this happening in abyssea, and is reason why so many major linkshell break now, because everyone just got tire putting effort into something they never get anything out of it. They prefer play with friend only, and i thanks SE to have introduce abyssea, but for dynamis i really don't understand.

[kaht]

That the thing, maybe you been in wrong ls idk, in our ls out of 5yr long, none of the sponsor was able to lot on any AF because they was sponsoring, it always been fair enough for who did enter in my dynamis ls and won they AFv2 (free) while sponsor spended 2m / week and 1m/week after SE drop glass to 500k. We all don't know how Dynamis V2 gonna look like, and i am sure the same player will find a way to exploit everyone as usual. You can already see this happening in abyssea, and is reason why so many major linkshell break now, because everyone just got tire putting effort into something they never get anything out of it. They prefer play with friend only, and i thanks SE to have introduce abyssea, but for dynamis i really don't understand.

A whole day late on my reply... Anyway - most relic armor has always been sorta meh... Some of it is downright terrible (SAM). There's a few key pieces that are highly desirable (THF hands, RDM hat). I can't think of any other pieces that are going to make or break you if you don't have them. So, your ls leaders didn't get to lot on any relic armor? Big deal... So the ls leaders spent 1-2m a week to pay for entry glasses. Big deal... When you're making AT LEAST double that in currency drops, that 1-2m a week seems like a pretty insubstantial cost. When all those leaders have to do is purchase a glass and show up 2 times a week, they are getting rich on the backs of everyone else.

It's like going to a carnival and dishing out 20 dollars for tickets to win cheap stuffed animals and plastic spider rings. Most relic armor are just trinkets.

Any dynamis ls that doesn't give payouts or split the currency drops with members (minus the cost of the glass) is just using it's members to get rich. If your dynamis leaders keep all the currency for themselves, you're getting scammed. You've been getting scammed for 5 years. Sorry.

[Ilax]

Big deal... When you're making AT LEAST double that in currency drops, that 1-2m a week seems like a pretty insubstantial cost. When all those leaders have to do is purchase a glass and show up 2 times a week, they are getting rich on the backs of everyone else.

That just wrong, none of our sponsor are allowed to SELL currency to get richer. I don't support that kinda of activity, is why we always been super selective on who sponsor, of course we not selecting Mr. bob, just because he rich, you get the whole thing wrong. No one will ever sponsor our dynamis with less then 1yr exp with us, they also loose all point they had accumulated, they have to show us a minimum of 26M, and they have to be respected in the LS and they can't already have in possession a relic weapon.

It amuse me when people say how sponsor enrich they self with dynamis, tbh SE should do an update in dynamis and make currency not possible to sell/trade, so in the end only legit LS like our would stay alive, and all the Mr. Money maker LS would vanish, and no more player buying GIL from RMT to buy currency from Mr. Money maker.

[Dubberrucky]

Yeah the word "normal" scares me. Dyna had a different "normal" than anywhere else for loot.

[kaht]

It's not a scam. everyone else is getting a pile of free equipment for their trouble.

Getting a pile of garbage equipment for 7 hours a week while leaders get millions of gil worth of currency. Enjoy your pile.

What it IS, is the only way to complete a relic in a reasonable time frame.

I'm pretty sure a person sitting on a pile of gil could buy all the currency faster than he could get a linkshell to farm it up for him.

That just wrong, none of our sponsor are allowed to SELL currency to get richer.

That's not the point. Whether you're selling the currency or keeping it for yourself, your net worth is going up by the same amount. Based on prices of currency, what's the average cost of a relic these days? 150mil-ish? Whether the person sells the currency or makes the 150mil weapon himself, he's still 150mil richer.

Let's look at it a different way, let's say you farm 5mil worth of currency off a run and the leader drops it all. That's 5mil currency that's not going into everyone else's pockets.

So whether they keep it, sell it, drop it, it doesn't matter. It's capital that the leader keeps for themselves, when they are only contributing a small amount of the work required to obtain it. You can argue about this till you're blue in the face, but the simple fact is that it's just not fair.

[Lost1anguage]

Getting a pile of garbage equipment for 7 hours a week while leaders get millions of gil worth of currency. Enjoy your pile.



I'm pretty sure a person sitting on a pile of gil could buy all the currency faster than he could get a linkshell to farm it up for him.



That's not the point. Whether you're selling the currency or keeping it for yourself, your net worth is going up by the same amount. Based on prices of currency, what's the average cost of a relic these days? 150mil-ish? Whether the person sells the currency or makes the 150mil weapon himself, he's still 150mil richer.

Let's look at it a different way, let's say you farm 5mil worth of currency off a run and the leader drops it all. That's 5mil currency that's not going into everyone else's pockets.

So whether they keep it, sell it, drop it, it doesn't matter. It's capital that the leader keeps for themselves, when they are only contributing a small amount of the work required to obtain it. You can argue about this till you're blue in the face, but the simple fact is that it's just not fair.

Wow Q_Q some more. Leaders and the ones that buy the glass take all the risk. As small as that risk is these days its still their risk, and because of it, they should call the shots as to how the loot should be distributed. If you don't like running that way because you don't think its fair, then run your own raid however you like.

[kaht]

Wow Q_Q some more. Leaders and the ones that buy the glass take all the risk. As small as that risk is these days its still their risk, and because of it, they should call the shots as to how the loot should be distributed. If you don't like running that way because you don't think its fair, then run your own raid however you like.

Risk? lolwut?

Lemme guess, you're a leader of a dynamis ls that keeps all the currency. I know saying this stuff out loud on a public forum has the potential to undermine your dynamis pyramid scheme if all the people under you catch wind of how stupid they are for supporting your relic for no reward. But using "risk" as a way to validate keeping the currency is a stretch at best. Nice try, but you still fail.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

If this is the end of Dynamis, I'll be glad for this reason alone. Never was an event so monopolized to make 1 individual rich on the backs of everyone else's work. Shame on me for doing that event as long as I did....

There is much wisdom in your words my friend! +1

I have been sending SE mails every few months telling them to get rid of their stupid 72h timers (any of their cooldown timers) or the limitation of Assault tags and price of Salvage entry. FINALLY they listened after 8 years!