[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Fiarlia]

Is the main part that i am worry. please read and highlight the right part of my issue.

I don't think you even know what this means.

What do you think this means?

[Icestein]

I don't agree with either petition, but I understand why they have done it. If there was only a petition against the change then Square enix would get a unilateral view of the issue. They're petitioning for it to be implemented to offset what you are petitioning.

[Masekase]

Is the main part that i am worry. please read and highlight the right part of my issue.

Well instead of a petition on some loose fact why not wait for more info or ask some questions ? Ie is more people allowed in at a time ?

Maybe call it concerns with [dev1000] Dynamis Reborn! update question and answers.

[Fiarlia]

I don't agree with either petition, but I understand why they have done it. If there was only a petition against the change then Square enix would get a unilateral view of the issue. They're petitioning for it to be implemented to offset what you are petitioning.

Pretty much. I think having either petition (the pro one included, even though I made the thread) is silly. But I'd rather do something silly then take the chance that SE will actually see that thread and suddenly think that they shouldn't do it because nobody is voicing an opposing opinion.

In the future, a sign/anti-sign thread could easily be appropriate though. Since, ya know, it allows both sides to express their interest/disinterest/opposition - especially if it's kept to just /sign, /antisign and /dontcare without all the bitching and arguing.

[Ilax]

The point isn't that we have different points of view, the point is that only one point of view (yours) is allowed to voice itself to the DEV Team in your thread. That's just stupid and self serving.

But whatever, I followed advice and made a pro-changes thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...4239#post14239

Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

[Ilax]

Well instead of a petition on some loose fact why not wait for more info or ask some questions ? Ie is more people allowed in at a time ?

Maybe call it concerns with [dev1000] Dynamis Reborn! update question and answers.

So let a nuclear plan get built and wait if is going to explode before say anything? Good analogy.

[Masekase]

Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

Really that is a stupid way to look at it. How many people do you think they have all ready lost due to the current system ?

[Icestein]

Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

Agreeing with Starcade reduces any credibility you once held to nothing. You know something? If Square enix waiver because some people have dissented I will lose a lot of respect for them. I might quit, because I will have seen that a few vocal people opposed to something can veto an entire change that they know very little about. I will be tempted to quit if SE lack the integrity and tenacity to stick with this.

So let a nuclear plan get built and wait if is going to explode before say anything? Good analogy.

Can people please stop with the slippy slope bull. Guess what? Our opinions on nuclear energy plants (and I disagree with you on that too, I think they're a cleaner, more efficient source of energy and are actually quite safe) bear no relevance to this conversation. Dynamis and Nuclear energy ARE NOT IN ANYWAY SIMILAR, it's a freaking terrible analogy.

[Masekase]

So let a nuclear plan get built and wait if is going to explode before say anything? Good analogy.

No thats why you post questions to the devs and they give answers. sorry thought it was pretty clear that comment.
Normally people don't start petitions till they know all the facts.

[Fiarlia]

Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

At the moment, my thread has more signatures, indicating that more people want the change than do no not want it. This game was not created just for you, and SE will likely go with whatever choice is more popular (again, at the moment, it's people who like the change and welcome it), or ignore the threads altogether and do what they want anyway.

If the changes make more people happy than they do unhappy, there's literally no reason why they shouldn't go forward with their plans. This is precisely what I was talking about, you have been living in your own world where you think so many people are unhappy about this, and that you needed to bring this to their attention. These forums are not a place for your personal crusades. This is where we can discuss the game and possible changes to it. Your thread was anti-productive to not only the discussion, but to bringing the players point of view to SE.

Again, your idea was stupid. Your thread was stupid. My thread is also stupid, but was done to bring some semblance of balance in voicing opinions that yours was designed to ignore. I personally hope both threads get deleted, as neither (by themselves) really has a place here.