[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Fiarlia]

Wow. Just wow.

How it's possible for you to be missing the point so hard is beyond me.

The point is that you do not like the changes for Dynamis. Yes, there are others that share this view. There are also many others who do NOT (as evidenced by this thread and many others). You created a topic where the only people who were able to voice their opinions are the people that share the same personal views as you, as in not wanting the changes.

You are essentially creating a place where SE can only hear one side of the argument, or, if it stays argument free, can only see the people that agree with you, forcing them to either ignore or dig through the various threads to find viewpoints that are not the same as yours.

This is incredibly biased and one-sided. And it serves your personal interests (which is keeping Dynamis unchanged), and completely ignores the ones who welcome the change.

Your idea was stupid.

[Ilax]

Wow. Just wow.

How it's possible for you to be missing the point so hard is beyond me.

The point is that you do not like the changes for Dynamis. Yes, there are others that share this view. There are also many others who do NOT (as evidenced by this thread and many others). You created a topic where the only people who were able to voice their opinions are the people that share the same personal views as you, as in not wanting the changes.

You are essentially creating a place where SE can only hear one side of the argument, or, if it stays argument free, can only see the people that agree with you, forcing them to either ignore or dig through the various threads to find viewpoints that are not the same as yours.

This is incredibly biased and one-sided. And it serves your personal interests (which is keeping Dynamis unchanged), and completely ignores the ones who welcome the change.

Your idea was stupid.

because again you look at it the wrong way, I'm not there to tell them why they should refuse it, is why my post was clean and impartial. I did not create a new thread to cause trouble, they are free to sing in with w/e argument they have, i also stated in the post they don't need to shared they reason, that can be done here. You mixing up everything.

[Fiarlia]

because again you look at it the wrong way, I'm not there to tell them why they should refuse it, is why my post was clean and impartial. I did not create a new thread to cause trouble, they are free to sing in with w/e argument they have, i also stated in the post they don't need to shared they reason, that can be done here. You mixing up everything.

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Try rereading my post. I'll wait until you can fully understand the words that were written, since it's obvious that you didn't understand any of it at all.

[Ilax]

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Try rereading my post. I'll wait until you can fully understand the words that were written, since it's obvious that you didn't understand any of it at all.

I don't need to read it, obviously we have different point of view, take it or leave, sing it or not. Even put petition again how ppl are happy, maybe SE will look at it and say: Hey guy quit that right now, too many ppl are happy, we need issue this asap, bunch of income will flood us.

Seriously stop been such of ignorant.

[Fiarlia]

I don't need to read it, obviously we have different point of view, take it or leave, sing it or not. Even put petition again how ppl are happy, maybe SE will look at it and say: Hey guy quit that right now, too many ppl are happy, we need issue this asap, bunch of income will flood us.

Seriously stop been such of ignorant.

The point isn't that we have different points of view, the point is that only one point of view (yours) is allowed to voice itself to the DEV Team in your thread. That's just stupid and self serving.

But whatever, I followed advice and made a pro-changes thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...4239#post14239

[Ilax]

The point isn't that we have different points of view, the point is that only one point of view (yours) is allowed to voice itself to the DEV Team in your thread. That's just stupid and self serving.

But whatever, I followed advice and made a pro-changes thread.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...4239#post14239

Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

[Masekase]

Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

Really that is a stupid way to look at it. How many people do you think they have all ready lost due to the current system ?

[Icestein]

Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

Agreeing with Starcade reduces any credibility you once held to nothing. You know something? If Square enix waiver because some people have dissented I will lose a lot of respect for them. I might quit, because I will have seen that a few vocal people opposed to something can veto an entire change that they know very little about. I will be tempted to quit if SE lack the integrity and tenacity to stick with this.

So let a nuclear plan get built and wait if is going to explode before say anything? Good analogy.

Can people please stop with the slippy slope bull. Guess what? Our opinions on nuclear energy plants (and I disagree with you on that too, I think they're a cleaner, more efficient source of energy and are actually quite safe) bear no relevance to this conversation. Dynamis and Nuclear energy ARE NOT IN ANYWAY SIMILAR, it's a freaking terrible analogy.

[Fiarlia]

Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

At the moment, my thread has more signatures, indicating that more people want the change than do no not want it. This game was not created just for you, and SE will likely go with whatever choice is more popular (again, at the moment, it's people who like the change and welcome it), or ignore the threads altogether and do what they want anyway.

If the changes make more people happy than they do unhappy, there's literally no reason why they shouldn't go forward with their plans. This is precisely what I was talking about, you have been living in your own world where you think so many people are unhappy about this, and that you needed to bring this to their attention. These forums are not a place for your personal crusades. This is where we can discuss the game and possible changes to it. Your thread was anti-productive to not only the discussion, but to bringing the players point of view to SE.

Again, your idea was stupid. Your thread was stupid. My thread is also stupid, but was done to bring some semblance of balance in voicing opinions that yours was designed to ignore. I personally hope both threads get deleted, as neither (by themselves) really has a place here.

[Randwolf]

Just wow, i really hope SE/DEV are not that dumb and just end to ignore who unhappy form such of change just because the general player are positive about it. If is the case then be it, if SE think is logical to loose player just to make other happy then as Starcade stated in one of his thread (that i found rude) SE don't deserve to stay alive.

By creating a thread that purports one side of an issue and actively excludes opposing views, while a thread exists that shows the discussion around the issue, both for and against, appears to be an attempt to portray that your view is the popular view. It happens all the time in politics. And is usually started by the side that is not the more popular one.