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    Player Randwolf's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I don't know anyone who "got rich" off dynamis. It was the players who sold coins who put a value on them. The people who sponsored runs did not make money, thay paid out millions.

    There were some people who claimed to be going for a relic but then sold the currency, and I'd agree that those people sucked. But pushing a relic is (or maybe was) the only way to complete a relic in a reasonable amount of time (e.g. less than a year). Even if you had 999,999,999 gil, it would have taken forever to buy the currency from bazaars.

    This change is for the better- mostly eliminating the cost of dynamis and making it an open area will both make relics easier to get and making the currency cheaper and eliminate all the hate, but stop labeling run sponsors as horrible people. For the most part, they're not.

    If you feel you're being exploited, you have the right and ability to get out at any time. If you're honestly interested in helping someone get a relic, you have every right and ability to stay. All I know is the leaders of my shell were good people and did not walk all over everyone or behave in ways the group didn't approve. And they continued to run dynamis after relics were completed.

    No matter who you are, as far as I can tell, everyone wins with these changes. I just don't like seeing people be unfairly hated on.
    I think a lot of people have had bad experiences around the getting other people relics thing. It doesn't mean it always bad. But, I know that some of the following have occurred and probably really soured people on the sponsor thing:

    1) Your point about those who actually sold the currency they were getting
    2) Who was allowed to sponsor runs was based not on fairness but who the leaders liked
    3) Dynamis Schedule was dictated by what one individual needed, even if a lot of people wanted gear from a different zone
    4) Dynamis was a mandatory event so there wasn't a choice if you wanted to stay in the shell
    5) In some shells, the sponsor couldn't lot relic gear. But some do allow the sponsor to lot gear
    6) Most shells, especially before the cap was raised, required people to provide food, meds, and RR (so it wasn't cost free)
    7) People got their relic and suddenly 'vanished'
    8) When it came their turn to get to sponsor, so many people had left, the shell broke

    There are shells out there are totally fair and the people getting to sponsor are good people. But, I think a lot of people have had experience with shells that did do things which might be considered unfair. This is probably why you don't see a lot of sympathy from the player base on how the changes affect people who sponsor runs. Again, in fairness, it isn't every shell that has sponsors that gives sponsor runs a bad name. But, there are enough of them that people have had an opportunity to experience the negative.
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    Last edited by Randwolf; 03-12-2011 at 04:22 PM. Reason: forgot a point
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