[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Starcade]

This is perhaps the most unlikely situation to occur if the NMs are popped by triggers. It demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge or experience in other facets of the game.

For instance, almost every NM in Abyssea is popped by a trigger. Nobody can block you out of them. They might be able to pop one before you if they spam the ???. It's just luck really. But you're stopping them just as much as they're stopping you and with 1 minute ??? repops it's not even a big deal. The only thing that they can do is perhaps try and hold an NM so that the ??? can repop. If this is the case, you can simply GM them (it is against the ToS.)

... presuming the GMs will actually do something about it.

Spend some time in Abyssea, and you will see the cockblockers out in full force at prime times.

I once was ordered to pay somebody not to block us from getting a Heqet.

I told him to kiss my entire rotund behind.

I was also then expelled from my alliance.

[ZeDingo]

... presuming the GMs will actually do something about it.

And if you would've reported them for it, you would have gotten a form letter response from a GM telling you to go to the site and report them to the STFU. Average wait time for retribution: 5-7 days.

[Starcade]

And if you would've reported them for it, you would have gotten a form letter response from a GM telling you to go to the site and report them to the STFU. Average wait time for retribution: 5-7 days.

If they even cared to do so.

This quote from a law website sums up my feelings about the GM's and Square-Enix' desire to enforce the rules:

"Fraud is generally defined in the law as an intentional misrepresentation of material existing fact made by one person to another with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act, and upon which the other person relies with resulting injury or damage. Fraud may also be made by an omission or purposeful failure to state material facts, which nondisclosure makes other statements misleading."

[Mojo]

... presuming the GMs will actually do something about it.

Spend some time in Abyssea, and you will see the cockblockers out in full force at prime times.

I once was ordered to pay somebody not to block us from getting a Heqet.

I told him to kiss my entire rotund behind.

I was also then expelled from my alliance.

Nice try with the veteran card attempt there, but with four full sets AF3+2, a completed Verethragna, a nearly completed Kannagi and a nearly 80 Ukonsvarasa I'm certain I've easily experienced more Abyssea than you. Certainly enough to say that your complaints are a bunch of nonsense. Competition there is really not that bad. Turn back the clock a little and perhaps compare it to other elements of the game. The disruption that RMT could cause in sky due to the non trigger nature of the NMs there, for instance, heavily exceeded any sort of disruption that I've ever encountered in Abyssea.

"It demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge or experience in other facets of the game."

??? mark repops 1 minute after NM dies, not 1 minute after you pop it.

Perhaps you missed the part where I covered this by bringing up the GM? If you don't think they respond, maybe try calling them when you have a legitimate issue. I've seen an SGM pop up for this exact purpose within about 15 minutes of being called.

[Alhanelem]

Yeah, because we haven't had problems with crowding at pop bosses in Abyssea/everywhere else.

You don't need to kill the bosses that often, since they don't drop stuff anyway (I suppose, they might after this change, but I somewhat doubt that.)

"Where in Vana'diel is there any challenge left?"

Relics are hardly the ultimate challenge in the game, even without these dynamis changes. Mythics are harder and more time consuming in every way, and empyreans are harder, though probably less time consuming, as the NMs are enough of a challenge that you need some help, whereas any dynamis group that can plow through Dynamis, which hasn't been a challenge for a while, can kill the couple NMs you need to advance stages. PW and AV are still hard challenges, even though they are quite beatable now.

By my read, it sounds like it's going to be an open area with NMs being cockblocked by jackalopes who demand 500K or you'll never see a meaningful NM.

I've never met a group that demanded gil to let you have a turn at a pop NM. I've never seen such a major backlog that this could even possibly happen in abyssea. Once in a while you get a moron who is trying and failing at soloing something just for the sake of doing so, but this doesn't happen that often. I also call BS on the story where your ally leader asked you to pay someone else to not cause trouble. That is just so preposterous that it just can't be believed. Even if I were to accept the story as true, the reason why the *leader* of the group shouldn't be the one making the bribe is... why?

Yeah, Square-Enix, nice improvement.

You're right. It is a nice improvement. Yes, I know you were being sarcastic, but I'm not.

[Ilax]

Well, i am waiting to see how all this going, if is another 'too easy' implementation of SE to obtain relic weapon, even after what they made already [E.Wep], then i guess ill invest my 20$ into something that bring me a better challenge. SE is a company and i can understand they wan the mass instead of quality, so be it. I just hope they know what they are doing.

I for sure /welcome alternative from SE (like they did for E.Wep and AFV3) but not to the point crash all what they made just because mr. lazy is unhappy to not be on top of everything, to me is lack of respect for they hardcore player.

[ringthree]

This is a rough Google translation about the changes to Dynamis by a Dev this morning EST.

Thanks for posting!

Dynamis design changes are quite so high-impact story
I think we are more anxious.

Check the specification has been believed to be particularly necessary in the progression of this thread.
Since assuming the current specification only, that there may be changes
Please confirm the assumption.

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* The exclusive right of monsters and loot
Will be treated the same as normal field.
I think you'll conspicuous imagine the same format as it captures Abisea.

* The loot drop rate
For costumes and Relic is not expected to change.
For the money, so more opportunities to try to reduce the number of times I tried to get one,
Tuned to a slight increase in circulation throughout the world.

[azjazo]

Well, i am waiting to see how all this going, if is another 'too easy' implementation of SE to obtain relic weapon, even after what they made already [E.Wep], then i guess ill invest my 20$ into something that bring me a better challenge. SE is a company and i can understand they wan the mass instead of quality, so be it. I just hope they know what they are doing.

I for sure /welcome alternative from SE (like they did for E.Wep and AFV3) but not to the point crash all what they made just because mr. lazy is unhappy to not be on top of everything, to me is lack of respect for they hardcore player.

I roll my eyes every time I see someone pointing the "easy" way the game is becoming and its starting to hurt my eyes.

And making relics easy to get is not making "mr lazy" on the top, cuz the top has just been raised, and it will further be reaised once we get to 99, so the "mr masochist" can still grind the hell out of the new fancy e-peen enhanching gear it will be abalible or if they love their relics so much, SE is going to (and already has) provide ways to upgrade said gear to the point it will rival the newer sets, let people lazy their way to the "NQ relic" and you can work for the HQ instead...

[katoplepa]

I think SE saw the successfull of Abyssea-system and now try to apply the same method on Dynamis :

you can take your KI (like traverser stone), enter Dynamis, search for Time Extension (like in Abyssea), find your spot to exp and kill monster, get your treasure pool with your currency (only you and your party can lot on it), force pop your Count Raum and take your Assassin's Armlets, and so on...

no worryes guys, it will be great...

and maybe SE will introduce some new items to drop...

anyway, dunno about DL how can it be... maybe it will be like some Abyssea-boss : force pop after some KI

[kaht]

That the thing, maybe you been in wrong ls idk, in our ls out of 5yr long, none of the sponsor was able to lot on any AF because they was sponsoring, it always been fair enough for who did enter in my dynamis ls and won they AFv2 (free) while sponsor spended 2m / week and 1m/week after SE drop glass to 500k. We all don't know how Dynamis V2 gonna look like, and i am sure the same player will find a way to exploit everyone as usual. You can already see this happening in abyssea, and is reason why so many major linkshell break now, because everyone just got tire putting effort into something they never get anything out of it. They prefer play with friend only, and i thanks SE to have introduce abyssea, but for dynamis i really don't understand.

A whole day late on my reply... Anyway - most relic armor has always been sorta meh... Some of it is downright terrible (SAM). There's a few key pieces that are highly desirable (THF hands, RDM hat). I can't think of any other pieces that are going to make or break you if you don't have them. So, your ls leaders didn't get to lot on any relic armor? Big deal... So the ls leaders spent 1-2m a week to pay for entry glasses. Big deal... When you're making AT LEAST double that in currency drops, that 1-2m a week seems like a pretty insubstantial cost. When all those leaders have to do is purchase a glass and show up 2 times a week, they are getting rich on the backs of everyone else.

It's like going to a carnival and dishing out 20 dollars for tickets to win cheap stuffed animals and plastic spider rings. Most relic armor are just trinkets.

Any dynamis ls that doesn't give payouts or split the currency drops with members (minus the cost of the glass) is just using it's members to get rich. If your dynamis leaders keep all the currency for themselves, you're getting scammed. You've been getting scammed for 5 years. Sorry.