[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Mojo]

SE already gave E.Wep as alternative, why trying to kill Dynamis relic weapon now? There a limit to transform everything in the game, as i said many time, dynamis was just something that not many loved or able to manage, never been something not accessible. What SE is about to do is just mess up the last even in the game that require devotion from multi player.

If you admit that not many people liked it, then what's wrong with them changing it? It was an awfully boring and flawed event. A three hour marathon that was exciting at first but that quickly became a highly mundane labour in which only one or two people reaped the rewards of the hard work of several others isn't exactly my idea of fun or good. Changes like this should have come years ago, to be honest.

Dynamis is no exception as to what requires fewer people these days. A party of six strong players could clear every town zone at 75 cap. I'm sure that just a duo of a RDM + MNK could do it too at 90. Relic weapons are the same as always were. They require an unnecessary amount of coin grinding to complete and the end result is quite mediocre in most cases.

I don't think this patch will "kill" relic weapons by any means. Dynamis was previously on the outs because the gear was obsolete and nobody liked the event. People are actually considering doing it now and AF2 might actually become useful pieces of gear. That's perhaps the most that anybody who liked Dynamis could ever hope for. I think instead of cradling their relics like a wounded child while berating the announced changes, relic holders should embrace what is to come and be hopeful. What I would like to see is the difficulty of obtaining relic weapons be mitigated while also adjusting the strength of their weaponskills and perhaps increasing the frequency of the triple damage procs. Honestly, relic weapons were mediocre before Abyssea, it just took a while for people to catch on.

[Alhanelem]

If you no longer require reservations for dynamis does this mean anyone can just jump in see if some af/currency is in the pot and lot it????

No. They're totally revamping dynamis. Do you really think they're going to keep the global treasure pool when they allow multiple different groups and people to enter at the same time? They're not turning it into a walk of echoes battle, they're turning it into an open area, with the NMs/bosses being popped instead of just up.

[Alhanelem]

If SE is going to keep Dynamis going and keep merging servers, they better get their act together and make Dyna an instance like in WoW. Trying to coordinate runs with several thousand other people is kind of a serious pain, especially since we don't all speak the same language.

Did you read the news post at all? They're already changing dynamis so you don't need to schedule runs anymore...

It's not going to be instanced. It's going to be an open area with the bosses being popped NMs.

[ZeDingo]

Did you read the news post at all? They're already changing dynamis so you don't need to schedule runs anymore...

It's not going to be instanced. It's going to be an open area with the bosses being popped NMs.

Yeah, because we haven't had problems with crowding at pop bosses in Abyssea/everywhere else.

[Alhanelem]

Yeah, because we haven't had problems with crowding at pop bosses in Abyssea/everywhere else.

You don't need to kill the bosses that often, since they don't drop stuff anyway (I suppose, they might after this change, but I somewhat doubt that.)

"Where in Vana'diel is there any challenge left?"

Relics are hardly the ultimate challenge in the game, even without these dynamis changes. Mythics are harder and more time consuming in every way, and empyreans are harder, though probably less time consuming, as the NMs are enough of a challenge that you need some help, whereas any dynamis group that can plow through Dynamis, which hasn't been a challenge for a while, can kill the couple NMs you need to advance stages. PW and AV are still hard challenges, even though they are quite beatable now.

By my read, it sounds like it's going to be an open area with NMs being cockblocked by jackalopes who demand 500K or you'll never see a meaningful NM.

I've never met a group that demanded gil to let you have a turn at a pop NM. I've never seen such a major backlog that this could even possibly happen in abyssea. Once in a while you get a moron who is trying and failing at soloing something just for the sake of doing so, but this doesn't happen that often. I also call BS on the story where your ally leader asked you to pay someone else to not cause trouble. That is just so preposterous that it just can't be believed. Even if I were to accept the story as true, the reason why the *leader* of the group shouldn't be the one making the bribe is... why?

Yeah, Square-Enix, nice improvement.

You're right. It is a nice improvement. Yes, I know you were being sarcastic, but I'm not.

[Starcade]

Did you read the news post at all? They're already changing dynamis so you don't need to schedule runs anymore...

It's not going to be instanced. It's going to be an open area with the bosses being popped NMs.

By my read, it sounds like it's going to be an open area with NMs being cockblocked by jackalopes who demand 500K or you'll never see a meaningful NM.

Yeah, Square-Enix, nice improvement.

[ZeDingo]

By my read, it sounds like it's going to be an open area with NMs being cockblocked by jackalopes who demand 500K or you'll never see a meaningful NM.

Yeah, Square-Enix, nice improvement.

So instead of relics involving a lot of work, it'll be like trying to claim Faf/Nid and some other overcamped botted world bosses. Or like sky back in the day.

Not going back to Dyna, that's for sure.

[Burmecia]

By my read, it sounds like it's going to be an open area with NMs being cockblocked by jackalopes who demand 500K or you'll never see a meaningful NM.

Yeah, Square-Enix, nice improvement.

But isn't dynamis drops available to everyone in zone even outside of party/alliance? Not that it would make the situation any better, since any regular Joe can lot on anything they want (even if it's meaningless to them and they did nothing to help etcetc).

But, I'm still remaining hopeful that this isn't going to be like WoE, and more-so instanced like Salvage or something. Really hope. D:

[Starcade]

But isn't dynamis drops available to everyone in zone even outside of party/alliance? Not that it would make the situation any better, since any regular Joe can lot on anything they want (even if it's meaningless to them and they did nothing to help etcetc).

But, I'm still remaining hopeful that this isn't going to be like WoE, and more-so instanced like Salvage or something. Really hope. D:

Except for one thing: You knew, for the most part, who you were going in with, because you reserved the zone and you paid 500,000 gil for it.

Taking that away is going to make Dynamis into a bot-filled piece of... excrement run by bot-filled pieces of... excrement.

[Mojo]

By my read, it sounds like it's going to be an open area with NMs being cockblocked by jackalopes who demand 500K or you'll never see a meaningful NM.

Yeah, Square-Enix, nice improvement.

This is perhaps the most unlikely situation to occur if the NMs are popped by triggers. It demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge or experience in other facets of the game.

For instance, almost every NM in Abyssea is popped by a trigger. Nobody can block you out of them. They might be able to pop one before you if they spam the ???. It's just luck really. But you're stopping them just as much as they're stopping you and with 1 minute ??? repops it's not even a big deal. The only thing that they can do is perhaps try and hold an NM so that the ??? can repop. If this is the case, you can simply GM them (it is against the ToS.)