[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Alhanelem]

But, I'm still remaining hopeful that this isn't going to be like WoE, and more-so instanced like Salvage or something. Really hope. D:

It's not going to be instanced. But given that SE is revamping WoE, I extremely doubt they would be keeping the global loot pool. Why is everyone assuming this is going to turn into walk of echoes, especially when walk of echoes itself is also being revamped?

But, I'm still remaining hopeful that this isn't going to be like WoE, and more-so instanced like Salvage or something. Really hope. D:

It's not a scam. everyone else is getting a pile of free equipment for their trouble. What it IS, is the only way to complete a relic in a reasonable time frame.The only reason anoyne see this as a scam is because of the price currency goes for (which IS a scam because it's way higher than it should be, and WAY WAY higher than it will hopefully be when dynamis cost is reduced even further and made more accessible). However, with the Mythic and Empyrean weapons, which mostly only cost time (no one sells alexandrite anymore), Relics cost lots of time plus gil. Any attempt to defray that cost should not be seen as a scam, especially because the relics aren't even superior to weapons that are cheap as free.

Kinda makes it sound like drops will go into a universal pool. Yay WoE2

No, it's not WoE2:

* The exclusive right of monsters and loot
Will be treated the same as normal field.
I think you'll conspicuous imagine the same format as it captures Abisea.

"The same as normal field" meaning normal field areas e.g. any regular area of the game and the second line basically says "similar to abyssea."

[Whitewing]

Here is some additional info!

* Monster claim and item drops will work as usual.


Treasure:

* There are no plans to change the drop rate of Relic equipment.
* Along with the reduction of the entry time restriction, the amount of Ancient Currency earned per session will be lowered. Overall, this change should increase the Ancient Currency distributed across the World.

so either this confirms the drop pool will stay the same or it will be the same as non dynamis areas really thing SE need to make this clearer.

this also now forces LS's to either do more dynamis for the same currency rate or take longer to get a relic personally i think this change is gonna kill dynamis off.

[Alhanelem]

People usually only do dynamis in small groups now. It's not a ridiculous notion to have a group of friends that are willing to help make a relic.

[Dubberrucky]

Maybe i missed it somewhere in the posts but is SE implying that you can just enter Dyna randomly with other random people? If so this is going to just be a disaster we will have a bunch of random people just standing at the entrance to lot other peoples work.

Also they did not seem to mention dream zones whats the rumor mill on those will they be the same?

[Icestein]

I know from the translation it sounds like it'll remain the same as it currently is, however, I think this is just a case of bad translation. The Japanese version makes it sound as if it will be party loot, which would make sense considering the force popping of NMs.

"Normal" might just refer to outside mechanics. We can hope.

[Dubberrucky]

The ls i run with lots all the currency and sells it back to the upgraders in the shell for the cost of the run so those of us who are not upgrading do not pay for runs. It would ruin good honorable shells like mine to make them nontradeable. BTW yes big groups still exist for Dyna sadly if things are how they sound we are the ones who will get the shaft.

[Icestein]

The Japanese text translates as follows:


* The exclusive right of monsters and loot
Will be treated the same as normal field.
I think you'll conspicuous imagine the same format as it captures Abisea.

If it is Walk of the Echoes style, not only will Square enix have failed to make old content relevant, but will have proven that these forums are merely superficial. The last sentence referencing abyssea makes me think it won't be, though.

[Dubberrucky]

Thanks that was more clear. Still sucks though because large LSs like the one I belong to will be screwed over but the daily change may shrink our numbers anyway so we will see how it goes.

[Ilax]

It might sound not fair just because you see it as money maker when is obviously not, as i stated that could be 500k glass to collect rare/ex currency. If you look how not fair it is because someone spend gil to get currency while other collect AF for free then again you missed the point, I agree now the gear is garbage, but there still people doing dynamis just for the fun of helping a friend for his relic weapon (and is still 500k cost).

I can see what you involve into you idea, every member should have a share of the currency and Mr. I Buy Gil (or let say BOB) should buy it from your LS member for 6x the real cost right? 500k Glass = 350 currency average, 500k/350 = 1.5k each... how much Ordel sell again? ~12k (just 10x the price nto too bad.... orz) You guy derailed with dynamis...

[kaht]

It might sound not fair just because you see it as money maker when is obviously not, as i stated that could be 500k glass to collect rare/ex currency.

It certainly is for the fair linkshells that split currency and/or give payouts to their members.

If you look how not fair it is because someone spend gil to get currency while other collect AF for free then again you missed the point, I agree now the gear is garbage, but there still people doing dynamis just for the fun of helping a friend for his relic weapon (and is still 500k cost).

Would you go to abyssea and help 1 individual get all the +2 upgrade components, empyrean weapon upgrade components, and sellable drops (heed ring, artemis necklace, etc) while he let you ONLY have the seals? How is that different than letting 1 person keep all the currency in dynamis? (other than the fact that the +1 gear you can make with those seals is substantially better than garbage relic armor drops, matter of fact - this example is a lot more fair than dynamis, but I doubt anybody would fall for a scam like this - so why do we let it perpetuate in dynamis?)

I can see what you involve into you idea, every member should have a share of the currency and Mr. I Buy Gil (or let say BOB) should buy it from your LS member for 6x the real cost right? 500k Glass = 350 currency average, 500k/350 = 1.5k each... how much Ordel sell again? ~12k (just 10x the price nto too bad.... orz) You guy derailed with dynamis...

wut?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but yes - I think dynamis currency drops should be split among members, minus the cost of the glass - 12k per ordelle's means the leader keeps the first 42 pieces of currency to pay for his out of pocket cost. After that, even splits among members since they're all doing the same amount of work.

Any other system than that will benefit 1 individual more than the rest.