[dev1000] Dynamis Reborn!

[Ilax]

8 years and still need my relic THF hands, hope this helps out players who always get the shaft.

You just been in wrong ls that all,wait a min... even in mine you probably get same luck ><, we sadly never supported the cry baby of the server Oh well hope you luck on that update.

I am so going to /laugh when people make QQ thread about how RMT and BIG LS monopolize the new dynamis V2, because you seem to forget one thing about the update:

[SIZE=60]OPEN ZONE[/SIZE]

Mean you will have 0 control lmao, you have to deal with it. No worry, there many linkshell that are very good in open zone (Just see abyssea and pop NM or hnm, WoE, etc lmao)

That all cool, is allow to everyone to dream.

[Ilax]

People disagreeing with you is not "destryoing the thread." You cannot expect and demand that everyone agree with you. Stop pretending that everyone thinks what you think.

Dude you unable to follow a single instruction in a thread, so do yourself a favor, stop talking to me. Your only argument about how good this update going to be is:

I am very high super excited about this update, man this going to be uber awesome.

Ya i guess is very good argue.... Oh wait i almost forget you said you would like to only play 1h/week, you should just limit your time to post on this forum, obviously you able post almost 24/24.

[Ilax]

Once again i will expose my worry about this update, with obviously true FACT.

#1 Average currency drop in dynamis was 300.
#2 Everyone wan to get a reward out of it.

Obviously, i exclude the one who wan AFv2 (the 1% of server) because they will get they AFv2 in no time... Trust me they going to /shout in the zone, RDM AF can i have it, 200k.... or w/e they price, and they going to be out of this event in no time. No one in my ls need this crap anymore, been hell long time our player base lot it on they mule because it would be droping on floor otherwise....

SE in they update say currency drop rate going to be reduced, not a big deal since you can do it 7/7, but wait a min... let go back to my #1 and #2 comment. oh yeah about currency vs reward ppl expect...

~300 Currency going to be split with number of player in the zone, IT CAN'T GO HIGHER since SE BEEN CLEAR ON THAT, currency drop will be decreased, but since you can do 7/7 it should give more currency over the server.

So again is 300 DEVISED to number of player in dynamis V2. The zone can have 64 max player, SE did not say they will increase the maximum player in the zone...

So hey we have 2 magic number now, 300 and 64...

Wait a min, they update is awesome!!! you can get 300 currency per day and can run 7/7, amazing 17,500 / 300 = 58 day only!!, seriously stop dreaming on.... You have to deal with other player, and no you can't do anything anymore about it: OPEN ZONE.

So let review all this again....

0 to 64 = average going to be 32 in zone... 300 currency / average(32) = 9.375 currency to everyone, OF COURSE some might be more lucky and end with more, as some will be bad lucky and end with almost nothing. So Skip that stupid part since i doubt it have any influence over what i am talking about...

Let take our new number... 17,500 / 9.375 = 1866 day... Oh wow... really... just 5 Year long, and for who say: I would like do this event only 1h instead of 4h..,. Fine now is very available for you, have fun taking 20yr long to do your relic....

Now let just pick a look for who would like to do gil out of this event (Of course if you no plan get relic, you might be happy to do dynamis for something else, like GIL?)

Anyway, you will most likely get 9.375 currency per day (Average, sometime more, sometime less) So the next question is how much you going to sell those 9 currency after spending 4h into dynamis? 5k each mean you made 45k for the 4h long dynamis.. Really? Who the hell would do 4h long event for 45k, no one i mean common, anyone can do more then 45/4 = 11k/hours.... So then how much you expect to be a good GIL per hours? I for sure would say a good 25k/h, 100k out of an 4h event....

Yay We have a new number... 100k for 9.375 currency = 10,666 GIL each. That the new market incoming for who plan do relic. 17,500 * 10,666 = 186m

I don't know many that bough a relic just by farming, but a lots did it by buying GIL from RMT. For who Buy gil, of course this update going to be amazing because there more currency in circulation....

Too many seem to have forget that the LS like mine, been able to make relic for 34m only... Yes bunch of friend + 34m = new Relic owner. I feel this update is stupid because in the end is going to be only affordable if you buy gil, or monopolize the zone again other normal player.(hello RMT, old HNM LS back in bizz and so on)

Now tell me where i am wrong in my worry? What SE going to do to avoid all what i said? How you can still think you be winner out of this update? And while you at this, why not say how much gil you expect to get out of this event? Don't wan do gil, then how about to tell me how many currency you expect to get out of this, you only wan AFv2, great you will get it in no time and be able to run away of this chaos, very smart...

Oh and just you know... I already have mandau, my own LS rule say i can't get another RELIC, i am already 16/20 AFv2 complet, What i win if this update is canceled? NOTHING. What i win if they go with the update: Probably a tons... Is actually more avantage to me if SE actually do the update.. But obviously i look over my own self.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Unless ilax knows something the rest of us don't.. the specifics of the dynamis update haven't been released.

I seriously doubt they would make it walk of echoes style drops... would seem simpler to just make drops to specific parties and force pop dynamis zone bosses / attestation NM's

and I'm pretty sure they want our input before making the change to dynamis.

Dynamis needs to be changed.. it is seriously outdated and should be made more available to newer players...

That being said.. arguing against a change is pointless.. your time would be better spent offering suggestions so it doesn't suck.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Come on Flunk, stop steppin' on the poor guy's thunder. lol

[Jski]

I can only images how many times this was said but if not i will say it make dynamis more then one instates in that you can have more then one gorp doing the same dynamis at the same time. If this is done with out making it more then one instates then one person can keep blocking other ppl from getting in and will lead to GM intervention making things a great deal worst and more problematic then needed. ( i did not look though the 33 pages atm sry if this is just a re post of an ideal but its very important this is done.)

[Dale]

Remember the days Gil Farms would not buy expansions because they were too expensive. Now they can buy expansions and abyssea for 10-20 bucks for the lot.
now they can create level 90 jobs in just a day.

I have a feeling that they will come back in force with this update and farm Dynamis to the point where they will control the currency market as they did with the crafting markets for a few years.

I understand that FFXI is taking a more "WoW" approach to appeal to the teens with A.D.D who need everything quickly and with ease, but being able to not hit that lump like paying 500k per dynamis will allow Gil Farms to jump on a bandwagon and ease on in.

I'm on a server now where you can see new players buying gil left and right. People who you know just registered in the game and already buying items that are in the hundreds of thousands. It's nice that the game has cut the throat of a lot of gil farms and made gil pretty useless at some point, but i just have a bad feeling about taking the speed bump out of Dynamis events.

just an opinion,

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I don't know Yopop. As much as I hate to disagree when comparisons are made to WoW lol on this i'll have to. I do feel dynamis was a bit too troublesome to do and woudn't mind seeing it streamlined some to make it a little more accessible. I like challenge, but I also like events to be accessible and not overly dependent on large linkshells or rich gil buyers.

[Ilax]

the specifics of the dynamis update haven't been released.

What? i am serious, do you take time to read? I am not talking about something that SE will maybe do, i mean give me a break, they already said: 'No reservation'. How it sound t you? That mean you can go in at any time.... 1+1 = 2 [Open Zone]

I seriously doubt they would make it walk of echoes style drops... would seem simpler to just make drops to specific parties and force pop dynamis zone bosses / attestation NM's

See right here you mix up everything, no it won't be like WoE for the treasure, DEV already said that...

I'm pretty sure they want our input before making the change to dynamis.

Dynamis needs to be changed.. it is seriously outdated and should be made more available to newer players...

Can you explain me a good reason why the hell SE would need change dynamis that bad for new player? Don't tell me the lol-afv2, if not that then for what? Currency? Then read back my post. Welcome new player, your relic will now cost you 186m instead 34m. Oh ya that very awesome....

That being said.. arguing against a change is pointless.. your time would be better spent offering suggestions so it doesn't suck.

My suggestion been made long time ago, make more instance for every zone, so everyone can enter, and why not every day, even if it would be every 6 hours i don't care about that part.

Now how about you tell me what you find interesting in that update. please elaborate with what SE already announced. ( Because of course i did elaborated my point of view ). If is only because you be able get your AFv2 at the cost to destroy all the dynamis system, then seriously SE could have make these AF sell by a NPC in abyssea for 1,000 cruor and everyone could stay happy.

Do i am again new set of NM added in dynamis? Hell no, that was actually very nice idea, it could have give us alternative to do gear outside abyssea. I am for sure not refusing update like that could, because it give everyone a better interest then the lol-afv2 available in dynamis.

Oh of course if a DEV would come here and tell me by 'No reservation' they mean multiple instance, then i would say this is best ever update SE done for dynamis. But hey guess what, i think if it was the case, long time someone from DEV would have come in this thread and announce the good news, and i could be full happy too about this update. So yeah... my worry is not just in my head until DEV say something different.

[Ilax]

I don't know Yopop. As much as I hate to disagree when comparisons are made to WoW lol on this i'll have to. I do feel dynamis was a bit too troublesome to do and woudn't mind seeing it streamlined some to make it a little more accessible. I like challenge, but I also like events to be accessible and not overly dependent on large linkshells or rich gil buyers.

Is why this event should remain 'on reservation' and more available (this say multiple instance) Because i don't see how an open zone will fix the monopolization.

[Flunklesnarkin]

What specifically do you have against a shared zone?

edit.. and instancing is extremely unlikely given SE's track record in the past.