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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    Lots of stuff...
    Well, sorry, english is not my native language, so my vocabulary is lacking but the idea is there.

    Why hating on other peoples having the things you have easier than how you got them? its not like they are taking the stuff away from you... and you can still get more stuff with your hard dedication and skill

    And yeah, I concur that is very sad to see people not being able to do their job properly, but I dont think that noobish plage will last much when the game hits balance again after all these updates...

    Take it like, you, an expert on the job or something are like the first wave of japanese players back when FF launched, when it hitted US, all the US were noobs, and what? do the Japanese hate you all for being noobs?? well maybe dunno, some one probably opened a forum with a topic like "US players ruining the gamezor!!11!!" but it eventually hitted a balance and the good elite players remaining being good and a bunch of noobs became great players or changed jobs, or leave the game etc... The level cap and the adjustments and the gear is changing, the way to play de game too, so, sit back and go do other suff if you cant stand seeing people like the examples you put, I dont botter, cuz I know taht not averyone is going to be good "as soon as they hit 90"

    I completly understand the feeling of time wasted as I was in a Dyna LS myself and till i left I even didnt finished a set of relic, spending hours to end but I dont complain, I ENJOYED those hours, if it were "work" and "tedious" for you, then you were doing something wrong not having fun in the ride. Well of course I didnt wasted years in the LS I was busy enoug trying to reack 75 on SMN back when there wasnt even distinction between bloodpact rage/ward

    Focusing... Sh1t happens, and its a shame those hours on end were "wasted", but as I said its not time wasted if you enjoyed the ride, and if you didnt... well I really used the word Masochist wrong, and clearly it was just work for you.

    Maybe the word is.... elitist? egoist? or just plain cranky and bitter with everyone getting your same pair of shoes on sale now that they are an old model and you still got them when they cost half your monthly income... go get a new set then, its on sale!!!
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    Player Ilax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by azjazo View Post
    Maybe the word is.... elitist? egoist? or just plain cranky and bitter with everyone getting your same pair of shoes on sale now that they are an old model and you still got them when they cost half your monthly income... go get a new set then, its on sale!!!

    ... again you derail. But you funny none the less.
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    I think SE saw the successfull of Abyssea-system and now try to apply the same method on Dynamis :

    you can take your KI (like traverser stone), enter Dynamis, search for Time Extension (like in Abyssea), find your spot to exp and kill monster, get your treasure pool with your currency (only you and your party can lot on it), force pop your Count Raum and take your Assassin's Armlets, and so on...

    no worryes guys, it will be great...

    and maybe SE will introduce some new items to drop...

    anyway, dunno about DL how can it be... maybe it will be like some Abyssea-boss : force pop after some KI
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    If this is the end of Dynamis, I'll be glad for this reason alone. Never was an event so monopolized to make 1 individual rich on the backs of everyone else's work. Shame on me for doing that event as long as I did....
    spending 500k (was 1m) per run and making gil off this was not a monopoly if you wanted to upgrade relics this was a must and now its a reduced entry time and hopefully a increased currency output for quicker upgrades. I will one day have to achieve this and I hope my shell keeps doing it despite what is to come, problem is if they reduce drops to alliance/party then a lot of people are going to get screwed in the long run from shells since there are still a limited amount of people that can be in an alliance and sometimes memebers participation exceeds 18 people..
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    Quote Originally Posted by GERM View Post
    spending 500k (was 1m) per run and making gil off this was not a monopoly
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/monopoly

    Quote Originally Posted by dictionary.com
    exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market
    Although a ls leader keeping all the currency for themselves could be loosely defined as an "exclusive control of a commodity in a particular market", I'll agree with you that it's probably not strictly defined as a monopoly. It's still a BS system and a complete scam over all the other members of a ls that are doing equal parts work for little, to no reward for their effort.

    As I stated above, most relic armor drops are near useless so what incentive does a linkshell member have to show up and farm a person his relic weapon for him?

    I'll assume you're of legal age to hold a job. Would you go to work every day to make your company lots of money if they paid you with peanuts?

    And regarding your comment that hosting linkshell runs to keep all the currency for yourself is the only way to build a relic weapon - there are plenty of people over the years that have built relic weapons by simply making money doing non-dynamis related content, and purchasing all the coins. There are linkshells out there that split the currency with their members to sell, and coins that drop in union pools - somebody is out there buying these coins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaht View Post
    As I stated above, most relic armor drops are near useless so what incentive does a linkshell member have to show up and farm a person his relic weapon for him?
    How about some do it just for the fun to help a friend? Some in the game are more respected then other, and there multi reason about it, i personally still help in dynamis (even if that make 3yr i don't need anything including relic weapon) Why you think? just because i have nothing anymore to win i should turn my back to everyone that supported me in that LS, no way... I also don't do it because i feel forced to do it, but more because we have fun and our linkshell are close friend for several yr now.

    That the problem of everyone, they only help if they win something. (Can't blame the logic of this, but this don't apply anymore if you find the right LS)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GERM View Post
    spending 500k (was 1m) per run and making gil off this was not a monopoly if you wanted to upgrade relics this was a must and now its a reduced entry time and hopefully a increased currency output for quicker upgrades. I will one day have to achieve this and I hope my shell keeps doing it despite what is to come, problem is if they reduce drops to alliance/party then a lot of people are going to get screwed in the long run from shells since there are still a limited amount of people that can be in an alliance and sometimes members participation exceeds 18 people..
    Bingo. you win the prize. that is it right there. that is the only problem i see with it. It's like going to Dynamis-tav and the first 18 get to go, sorry rest of you have to sit out. Our LS still has 18+ members go to dynamis when they all show up.
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    Couldn't you just split up and drop and reinvite people as necessary? It really doesn't seem like that much of a dilemma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by varistor View Post
    Bingo. you win the prize. that is it right there. that is the only problem i see with it. It's like going to Dynamis-tav and the first 18 get to go, sorry rest of you have to sit out. Our LS still has 18+ members go to dynamis when they all show up.
    Already been pointed out, but that's like saying Abyssea doesn't support linkshells because the maximum number of people in an alliance is 18. It doesn't even make any sense. Any good linkshell is capable of multitasking. The only events that would ever suffer from size limitations are things like Limbus and, drumroll, old dynamis.
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    Here is some additional info!

    * Monster claim and item drops will work as usual.
    Kinda makes it sound like drops will go into a universal pool. Yay WoE2
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