BST Native Dual-Wield~

[Zagen]

I'm happy that, with the way things currently are, your pet jobs are working out for you in the situations you feel are worthy for it. As the way thing stand right now though, for anyone who actually wants to be a career BST and not a bandwagon farm/solo bot, and actually wants to join in and contribute to serious endgame events (VW, Legion, whatever comes out of the new expansion pack etc.) as BST, things could be much improved at the moment.

BST isn't the only job excluded from Legion. VW BST gets brought as a proc job (mostly by JP on my server), look at BLU, DNC, SCH, PUP, SMN, NIN, probably a few more I'm forgetting. The point is not every job fits the player's created cookie cutter scenarios. It sure would suck if all switching from DRK to BST offered me the same damage potential, at that point what's the point of switching.

And the problem here is that your looking at as simply NOTHING MORE than a utility job that you occasionally make use of to fill whatever niche situation you need it for while "main'ing" something else. This is pretty much the FFXI community standard for jobs that can't excel or contribute some kind of "X factor" in a more than a few party situation (see: PLD, RDM, PUP, Pre-Embrava SCH). I'm speaking more from the point of view of a career vet BST from 03-04.

I remember those days where BST was part of pet parties taking down HNMs, only difference between then and now is it takes less pets. There were events where throwing pets wasn't efficient or even practical just like now there are the same type of events.

It's not only about looking at it just as only a utility job it's just looking at how jobs can't branch out of their core FFXI role(I get most MMOs have "healer, DD, and Tank" but FFXI goes beyond such simplicity and even other MMOs do if you bothered to look). I mean you won't see a WAR soloing events like a BST, PLD, BLU, RDM, PUP, etc. Even if they subbed DNC or a mage sub they just don't function well in that department.

Once again see above. The problem with your statement is that your overstating a native dual wield buff as some kind Shoha/Resolution brokeness, and while I understand your mindset this is simply not true. There are draw backs. A good portion of the stuff BST excels at these days your not going to be subbing /WAR to full on DD to begin with (Dynamis, Salvage 1, Sea Jailers, Old Limbus, ZNMs, Meeble Burrows in some cases), as lack of cures, and pulling hate off your pet, could be a huge threat to death if your low manning without a healer present. If an actual healer was present, with the way things are, you'd probably be better off taking a MNK etc. Most other situations you may not be meleeing at all in a pet onry burn.

• Dynamis I'll agree due to the proc system.
• Sea NMs honestly depends on the NM.
• Salvage 1 considering I'm currently doing it as PUP/THF with ranger frame because temps are enough I don't see your point (btw I tank on PUP more often than on BST).
• Limbus is like Salvage, except for a few zones restore chests are often more than enough.
• ZNMs it depends again as some just don't have nasty AoEs or AoEs at all.

Most of the places BST excels at really isn't exclusive to the job anymore. Hell a DNC/WAR can already do all the above, cure themselves, and make a double attack+ dagger if they were so inclined. To top it all off they can pop Saber Dance which, while locking waltzes, gives them yet another double attack+50%, and only decays 20% at finish for 3mins. I don't think anyone is screaming for the nerf bat just yet on DNC.

No role or event is exclusive to any job.

I can tell you don't actually play DNC. If you did you'd know /WAR is for DA if Saber Dance isn't being used and for Berserk.
FYI:

• Saber Dance and DA from /WAR don't stack.
• DA dagger sucks on DNC because of how Attack/STR starved the job is native, among other reasons.
• Saber Dance goes fro 50% to 20% in the first 30 seconds it's activated regardless of merits.

What native dual wield will do more than out weights the negatives. It will make the job more attractive for more serious endgame events, as the extra damage from /WAR makes the job look a lot more attractive with native dual wield. We already need more parity between the DDs, and far more balance between job classes in the long run. I'm not asking to suddenly become gods among DD, crushing even the most well geared Ukon WAR, but hell at least let me compete with a PUP fairly at bare minimum. Mog house >>> Job Change is not a fix for class balance, and I think any career RDM, PLD, PUP would agree with me there. I find the the only people who really disagree with this mindset are career jobs that are winning in the mess post-abyssea balance we have currently.

DW won't make it more attractive for end game, look at any other 1 hand and let me know how appealing they are (after all THF, BLU, and DNC all get DW 3). This might change with the 1 handed changes although right now that could go either way. Like I mentioned DW makes it stronger in events where it excels not in the events you're aiming to become more appealing.

BST already beats PUP so I don't get why you mention that. I pointed out where a PUP can beat a BST:
When pet damage is excluded meaning PUP can use WHM or RDM puppets to haste them.
When you're fighting magic weak but melee resistant monsters like puddings.